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people's warExplanation Showing 241 to 260 of 1003 First Page•Previous Page 9 •10 •11 •12 •13 •14 •15 •16 •17 Next Page•Last PageMR BAKER: Mr Chairman, we'd all been drinking and I didn't feel that the canteen was the place ...(indistinct) the time to question people. Certainly. --- On the 13th November I was present at the meeting and after the police shot tear gas at the crowd on the soccer field, I then just wanted to get home. What happened later is that the police came to arrest us. They had Casspirs vehicles there and we were loaded one on top of the ... The attackers left behind death and destruction. Of the 13 people who lost their lives, 9 were very young. Some were 1 year, 3 years, 5 years and 7 years of age. The other four were; Xulu's wife Nelsisiwe who had been hacked to death outside the house; Xulu's son, Jabulani; his daughter ... CHAIRPERSON: So may I say a very warm welcome to both of you and I hope that both of you can hear so that you can follow and hear the questions and that we can listen to you. There are a lot of people out there so if you can speak quite loudly, that will help. I'm going to hand over now to Ms ... MR JANSEN: Now in your work as a security policeman, how was it that you regarded the ANC, which was an organisation fighting for the liberation and the emancipation of black people, how was it that you as a black person regarded them as your enemy? Kulman testified that he was involved in two (2) farm attacks in the Zastron farming area. In the 1st attack it was himself, Roger and Induna. Kleintjie had already done the reconnaissance and informed them that there were no people who occupied the house. White farmers in the area were believed ... The Applicant testified that he planned an overthrow of the Lucas Mangope regime and that he involved some members of the National Executive of the People's Progressive Party and Bophuthatswana soldiers in the process. MS GAVU: I went down the Maduna Street. There were people lying next to Station 16. The police didn't allow us to get closer to see what was happening. We were next to the hall. The ambulances were there and they were transporting people. INTERPRETER: He is referring to his co-accused, that's the people that he was talking to. MR DLUDLA: I learnt that there were people who had been sent to kill me. These were two Malodgwa sons, who are now deceased. three days to take evidence and they wanted to take a statement from me. Firstly one man who was a member of the ANC by the name of Bomba came to my place with other people whom I didn't know, they said to me that when police come to you you mustn't give them a statement. The police came and they ... E M THUNYISWA: Even if I don't know the people who did this to me, but I would request you to sapina the Warrenton Police Station for the things that they did to people in the past. I have forgiven them. I would like my child to be educated, because my child doesn't have any sister, doesn't have ... When I arrived at home I spent a few minutes when Ndlovu arrived from the hospital. He said where is Norman. I said Norman is arrested, I don't know where he is at this present moment. She said to me Norman is not alive any more. I said what do you tell me? I asked her where did you see him. She ... For two weeks I was on tranquilisers and I didn’t know what was going on. People came to see me but I cannot remember who came. From then on we suffered. I lost my car because I could not afford to pay it as my husband used to pay it. I couldn’t afford the rent so I had to sell some of my ... MRS RAMOSEPELE: He came home at night at about eleven o'clock. When he got home, I asked him where do you come from at this time. He told me that I had been arrested Phokeng earlier. I was arrested by the police of the former Boputhatswana government, because he had a T-shirt with Kotsilibone's ... Yes, Barnard was there and the employees - people who were working there. There were no other people except Barnard and the people who were working in court. CHAIRPERSON: Would you agree that in the violence that occurred during that time, and in particular I am talking about the Tokoza area, many people died? This policeman who shot me used to play with the gun. He will just shoot upwards when the people are sitting in Jonas. When the policemen from Phalaborwa came, and they got us at the meeting, they came to the Lutheran Church where we were holding the meeting and they threw teargas-canisters at us. Then people started scattering in all directions and ran, but I never ran away. That's when I was taken and ... CHAIRPERSON: But I wouldn't have thought that you people in the Security Police would have tapped each other's phones? |
