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people's warExplanation Showing 241 to 260 of 1003 First Page•Previous Page 9 •10 •11 •12 •13 •14 •15 •16 •17 Next Page•Last PageMR SHANE: So you got shot by these, one of these white people. Is that correct? It is therefore quite clear that the deceased was not perceived by the local people as an enemy. Although the applicant contended that he was not living in the old location and it was his first visit to this location, and he had never before this incident, seen a white man in the location, we do ... Similarly on the question of proportionality, the context must be considered, he submitted. In those days, Applicant argued, the mere suspicion that one was an informer attracted the most dire consequences, because people's lives and livelihood were at stake. An informer could thus not be ignored. Applicant was asked if he could distinguish a PAC member from an ANC member, and his response was that he could not. He concluded his testimony by stating that he only realises now that they were shooting at the wrong people, explaining that it was not easy to tell ANC persons apart from other ... MR GOBIZEMBE: I left this country in 1976 and went into exile. When I got to Angola I was not trusted like others and was not treated well, I didn’t stay comfortably from the day that I arrived there. I said that I came to join the ANC but they didn’t trust me and regarded me as a State Agent ... MS VILAKAZI: I would be in a position to do so, although it would be hearsay. It would be better conveyed by the family itself, but from the consultation, what came to light is the fact that there have been personal problems, call it jealousy if you wish, between the deceased, his family and ... This, obviously, annoyed the ANC and their committee in exile decided that I had to be eliminated. A letter was written to the Rivonia High Command by Theunissen Makiwane, who was then in charge of the ANC office in Dar es Salaam while Oliver Thambo was in London. This letter was then sent to ... Your testimony concerns an experience that you had in July 1985 which is also indicative of the situation at that time and the way in which people were treated by the security forces, particularly the police. Now would you like to tell us what happened to you in July 1985. to them I could not because I have been affected by the sugar diabetes disease. They said that is no problem as the people in exile will be coming back to the country. They are going to help. MR BERGER: The same people that he spoke about, you confirm? MR MATHEBE: As people who were fighting for liberation, we knew what we were fighting for. We were not expecting any reward, our only reward was liberation. On 15 March, I was a member of those people who were taking the memorandum. He read the memorandum, he explained to us that 20 minutes we should disperse. When we were supposed to disperse, they gave an order that the police should shoot us. It was terrible. The main focus of the Truth Commission up until now has been the overt killing, torture and severe ill-treatment of people either to uphold or breakdown the system of apartheid. We pay tribute to all children suffering in this regard. However, the violation of children's human rights extends ... The Committee is satisfied that the attack was associated with a political objective, that the Applicant has made a full disclosure of the role he played in the attack and of the identity of the other people involved. 3rd Applicant's evidence was that he drove the vehicle in which Schoon and 1st Applicant went to the function at Malopo's Oog. He was not part of any of the discussions relating to this incident. On the way back he recalls 1st Applicant and Schoon discussing things about a problem. He recalls ... the police station. My mother was not willing to go, I was not willing to go. Eventually I went. When I arrived at the police station to go and find out what was happening, one of the policemen was very rude to me. He said to me: " Who are you coaming for?" and I said I'm coaming for Jonathan ... CHAIRPERSON: The reasons for yesterday's premature adjournment was that we needed a particular type of interpreter. This hearing was adjourned till nine o'clock this morning. It is now ten to ten. I speak on behalf of the panel. We are not very happy about that. Since this meeting was ... each other and you shared with me and with other staff members, quite a bit about your own pain and suffering. Does the briefer want her to move forward a bit? Okay, we know that you have been aware of what other people have said this morning. There were quite a few people who presented to us ... MR SANDI: At the time you made your appearance in court, were you the only one or were there other people with you? MS VAN DER WALT: Were you in any way involved with the preparation or the identification of the houses and any monitoring, to determine how many people would be inside the houses? |
