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people's warExplanation Showing 261 to 280 of 1003 First Page•Previous Page 10 •11 •12 •13 •14 •15 •16 •17 •18 Next Page•Last PageCHAIRPERSON: Did you - when you laid the explosive device, what were your intentions with regard to injuring or killing people, if any? MS KIVA: Yes, people were assaulted that year. MR FRANCIS: Well we had a discussion, I had a discussion together with Dr Veejay Ramlakan. I think it was the night before the actual operation. We looked at the target itself and we saw the approximity of the houses around Mr Rajbansi. My advice was to Dr Ramlakan then, was that you must sure ... It is also clear, Chairperson, that there was no material benefit for this applicant, for him to have participated in these actions and finally I submit, Chairperson, that the incidents and the attacks, were purely politically motivated, there was no other reason that the applicant could have ... MRS SIKHOSANA: I thank you. On that day, if my memory serves me right, it was on the seventh. When I got home from the funeral I was cold because my son had been shot by the Councillor. What I was told was that there was no conflict at all. There seems to be a misunderstanding here. What I ... ADV DE JAGER: If you could just tell us that it appears on such and such a page and confirm it, then we would be satisfied, because I am not interested in where people were born or which schools they attended. MR GOBIZEMBE: I left this country in 1976 and went into exile. When I got to Angola I was not trusted like others and was not treated well, I didn’t stay comfortably from the day that I arrived there. I said that I came to join the ANC but they didn’t trust me and regarded me as a State Agent ... Now the last one that made me to run away was in 1988. It was immediately after the coupe and I was told that I was part of the people that organized that. Of which I did not know nothing about. MR NGHOBENI: "I wanted the community amongst whom I resided to realise that I had been falsely arrested because the police who had arrested me had shown or rendered evidence to the effect that uMkhonto weSizwe members were responsible for killing people." MR VISSER: He was in Botswana, he met these people, and what happened then? CHAIRPERSON: Would you agree that in the violence that occurred during that time, and in particular I am talking about the Tokoza area, many people died? Yes, Barnard was there and the employees - people who were working there. There were no other people except Barnard and the people who were working in court. MRS RAMOSEPELE: He came home at night at about eleven o'clock. When he got home, I asked him where do you come from at this time. He told me that I had been arrested Phokeng earlier. I was arrested by the police of the former Boputhatswana government, because he had a T-shirt with Kotsilibone's ... MR JANSEN: Now in your work as a security policeman, how was it that you regarded the ANC, which was an organisation fighting for the liberation and the emancipation of black people, how was it that you as a black person regarded them as your enemy? Kulman testified that he was involved in two (2) farm attacks in the Zastron farming area. In the 1st attack it was himself, Roger and Induna. Kleintjie had already done the reconnaissance and informed them that there were no people who occupied the house. White farmers in the area were believed ... The Applicant testified that he planned an overthrow of the Lucas Mangope regime and that he involved some members of the National Executive of the People's Progressive Party and Bophuthatswana soldiers in the process. MS GAVU: I went down the Maduna Street. There were people lying next to Station 16. The police didn't allow us to get closer to see what was happening. We were next to the hall. The ambulances were there and they were transporting people. This policeman who shot me used to play with the gun. He will just shoot upwards when the people are sitting in Jonas. CHAIRPERSON: But I wouldn't have thought that you people in the Security Police would have tapped each other's phones? I just wanted it to be in the record, that is why I am asking you again. But we all remember very well what you told us at our first public hearing. And we remember the story of how those seven young men were shot and killed - of the funeral that happened about 10 or 12 days later with the ... |
