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people's warExplanation Showing 321 to 340 of 1003 First Page•Previous Page 13 •14 •15 •16 •17 •18 •19 •20 •21 Next Page•Last PageINTERPRETER: He is referring to his co-accused, that's the people that he was talking to. MR MBANDAZAYO: Will I be correct if I say that you yourself you cannot be in a position to say that in actual fact they did die or a certain number of people who were injured except that what you read from the paper or you heard over the radio? MR NGUBANE: Thank you Mr Chairman. Indeed we did go to Umbumbulu area in an attempt to find out whether Mr Wasserman would be in a position to point out the spot where Mr Bhila was eliminated. Unfortunately, we had a lot of difficulty, Mr Wasserman couldn't even remember the turn off which they ... DR ORR: Thank you Chairperson. Mr Jacobs thank you very much for coming here today. Who are the people with you? --- These are my two daughters. MRS MNGADI: Yes, they went and took me at home. It was on the 20th of June. The police took me at home. They took me to Algoa Park. From Algoa Park I was transferred to Bethalsdorp Police Station. I was detained there. From there I was transferred to North End Prison. At that time when I was ... MR SANDI: Are these the sacks that the police usually used to torture people? MR VAN DER MERWE: You are satisfied that this device that you built was safe, in terms of people handling this parcel without opening it? MR JANSEN: Now in your work as a security policeman, how was it that you regarded the ANC, which was an organisation fighting for the liberation and the emancipation of black people, how was it that you as a black person regarded them as your enemy? Kulman testified that he was involved in two (2) farm attacks in the Zastron farming area. In the 1st attack it was himself, Roger and Induna. Kleintjie had already done the reconnaissance and informed them that there were no people who occupied the house. White farmers in the area were believed ... ADV DE JAGER: If you could just tell us that it appears on such and such a page and confirm it, then we would be satisfied, because I am not interested in where people were born or which schools they attended. MR NGHOBENI: "I wanted the community amongst whom I resided to realise that I had been falsely arrested because the police who had arrested me had shown or rendered evidence to the effect that uMkhonto weSizwe members were responsible for killing people." CHAIRPERSON: Would you agree that in the violence that occurred during that time, and in particular I am talking about the Tokoza area, many people died? This policeman who shot me used to play with the gun. He will just shoot upwards when the people are sitting in Jonas. The second applicant and another stabbed two of the people who they assumed to be those because they used these words. One was killed, the other rand away. On their was home they suddenly decided to go and kill one Elizabeth Zandime Khumalo, whom they knew her to be in opposition to the IFP ... MR GOBIZEMBE: I left this country in 1976 and went into exile. When I got to Angola I was not trusted like others and was not treated well, I didn’t stay comfortably from the day that I arrived there. I said that I came to join the ANC but they didn’t trust me and regarded me as a State Agent ... Now the last one that made me to run away was in 1988. It was immediately after the coupe and I was told that I was part of the people that organized that. Of which I did not know nothing about. The Applicant testified that he planned an overthrow of the Lucas Mangope regime and that he involved some members of the National Executive of the People's Progressive Party and Bophuthatswana soldiers in the process. MS GAVU: I went down the Maduna Street. There were people lying next to Station 16. The police didn't allow us to get closer to see what was happening. We were next to the hall. The ambulances were there and they were transporting people. MRS RAMOSEPELE: He came home at night at about eleven o'clock. When he got home, I asked him where do you come from at this time. He told me that I had been arrested Phokeng earlier. I was arrested by the police of the former Boputhatswana government, because he had a T-shirt with Kotsilibone's ... Yes, Barnard was there and the employees - people who were working there. There were no other people except Barnard and the people who were working in court. |
