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people's warExplanation Showing 341 to 360 of 1003 First Page•Previous Page 14 •15 •16 •17 •18 •19 •20 •21 •22 Next Page•Last PageMEMBER OF PANEL: Mr Acting Chairperson, I would like to call upon Mrs Makiwane. Mrs Makiwane, before I can request that you can take an oath I would like to confirm the statement that you have given me. I would like to state that we are prepared to listen to your presentation so that if there are ... Various efforts were attempted, including resorting to the assistance of the police and no help ...[indistinct] the way of the community. The community tried its own endeavours, firstly by talking to the parents of the criminals concerned, in some instances assaulting them and in some instances ... Thank you Denzil, Robert what is most shocking about this testimony that you and others before you had given is the senselessness of it all. Just the senseless shooting of people who are unarmed and who were obviously causing no danger and were no danger to the police themselves. What is ... And do you know of other cases of people, you said that 20 were detained at the same time that you were detained, do you know if they were also tortured, did they discuss any of what happened to them with you? 3. The attempted murders of five other people, namely; Sibusiso Luthuli; Sipho Sikhumbuso Luthuli; Mzo Mbonambi; Chunky Msiya and Ziswe Mbonambi on the same occasion. The Committee is of the opinion that a decision regarding this incident should be postponed until evidence in other applications relating to the same incident has been heard. The applicant mentioned the names of Messrs. Eugene de Kock, Chappies Klopper, Willie Nortje, Sarel Jansen van Rensburg, ... When the policemen from Phalaborwa came, and they got us at the meeting, they came to the Lutheran Church where we were holding the meeting and they threw teargas-canisters at us. Then people started scattering in all directions and ran, but I never ran away. That's when I was taken and ... She stated that she and her husband and child went to Pretoria at approximately 15h00 on 1st August 1993. Their visit to Pretoria was unplanned and they left for Pretoria without any notice on an urgent basis. She accordingly denied the 1st Applicant's version that they were told during the ... MR BAKER: Mr Chairman, we'd all been drinking and I didn't feel that the canteen was the place ...(indistinct) the time to question people. The attackers left behind death and destruction. Of the 13 people who lost their lives, 9 were very young. Some were 1 year, 3 years, 5 years and 7 years of age. The other four were; Xulu's wife Nelsisiwe who had been hacked to death outside the house; Xulu's son, Jabulani; his daughter ... Applicant was asked if he could distinguish a PAC member from an ANC member, and his response was that he could not. He concluded his testimony by stating that he only realises now that they were shooting at the wrong people, explaining that it was not easy to tell ANC persons apart from other ... MR LAMEY: Then the suggestion is also created in this regard that here you simply set up people to have them shot, that you set them up in a robbery merely to shoot them. If you were to think back, would you have continued with the operation if these persons had not indicated any intention to ... MRS WILLIAMS:: Michael was eleven at the time and he was a quiet boy. The day that he was shot I was at work and I only found out the next day that he was dead, because at the time of the shooting people were taking kids into their houses and I was still hoping that he was waiting at one of the ... MRS RANTAO: They were people were fighting in the village. MS SKEPU: On the 7th of September my husband got up in the morning and went to the march in Bisho. We stayed together with our little child. Our child was seven at the time. I looked up to my husband, even the child looked up to the father. My husband then went to Bisho. At about one o'clock I ... MR MGULWA: Yes because the Chief wanted to do whatever he pleased with the people. He did not agree with that. Then there were killings. MR SANDI: Were there people Mrs Bata, who were arrested for this ?. PROF MAGWAZA: I see here you mention Mr Bezuidenhout as one of the people who tortured you. Is he the only one? Can you, do you have the identify of others? No, no, okay, well I am not going to ask you for the identity of others, but he is the only, is he the person who did most of the ... from Marble Hall which comes through Moutse. We came by foot on that road. Then we came through Motete. We went to Bondue where I am staying. When I arrived at Bondue Village where I am staying it was at sunset. My wife said my son is nowhere to be found. I asked what happened. There is a ... MR BELLINGHAN: Some people did not keep to this arrangement, they, for instance, didn't say when they were going to the Eastern Transvaal or wherever, and at a later conference there was a bit of a spat about this, about certain members of Vlakplaas who didn't co-operate. That changed drastically ... |
