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people's warExplanation Showing 361 to 380 of 1003 First Page•Previous Page 15 •16 •17 •18 •19 •20 •21 •22 •23 Next Page•Last PageMR GWENTSHE: I am sorry, excuse me Mr Chairperson, before we could proceed, were you not the Commission, panel afford me an opportunity to speaking about the Gwentshes' like people like Alcott Gwentshe, Irene Gwentshe, Mzwandile Gwentshe, Mzimkulu Gwentshe. The reason for me ... I am sorry about the noise that you have to compete with - it’s quite a dramatic wind outside today. You have given us a very strong picture of the way in which in those years the authority figures of the time felt that they could do anything. That the state of emergency gave them powers to ... MS SKHOSANA:: I was not at home, I was at my friends. Sometimes I used to sleep over at my friends. It seems as if those people weren't home and they didn't find me. MS KIVA: Yes, people were assaulted that year. CHAIRPERSON: Did you - when you laid the explosive device, what were your intentions with regard to injuring or killing people, if any? ... as far as we could establish. In all the local newspapers there was advertisements placed last year as well as this year. Only one person came forward which is Ms Collette Dawson. Ms Dawson was available yesterday, she's actually present here today, she's one of the victims in this matter and ... Although we do not find that the applicant, on the day of the incident, acted in self-defence or as an active supporter of the ANC of long standing, we are satisfied that in the circumstances that prevailed on that day he acted in support of the sentiments of the people who opposed the Mangope ... The ANC people called the medical doctors and my son was buried on the 13th at Stadium of Mahureleng, that's how it happened. MR BAKER: Mr Chairman, the first time I heard mention of a problem was on the journey back, it was a discussion between Mr de Kock and Brig Schoon and Mr de Kock said words to the effect that why is it necessary for us to always have to sort out other people's problems. Brig Schoon's reply to that ... MS NHLAYISI: Can you explain who were the people who were attacking at Slovo, when you were called that you should come and render assistance? I was involved in the Inauguration of this hall, I went home to buy some cigarettes. I was just standing there and I went to the shop. It was just in between the hall and the Montana Cafè, I was standing there counting my money. While I was counting the money people shouted: MR MBANDAZAYO: Thank you Mr Chairperson. Just before, Mr Chairperson, I address the Committee which I'll be short, I'd like to say something with regard to what has been - statement by Captain Snyman and the other victim. I wish just to say to them that on behalf of the applicants, I've spoken to ... I just wanted it to be in the record, that is why I am asking you again. But we all remember very well what you told us at our first public hearing. And we remember the story of how those seven young men were shot and killed - of the funeral that happened about 10 or 12 days later with the ... Certainly. --- On the 13th November I was present at the meeting and after the police shot tear gas at the crowd on the soccer field, I then just wanted to get home. What happened later is that the police came to arrest us. They had Casspirs vehicles there and we were loaded one on top of the ... The second applicant and another stabbed two of the people who they assumed to be those because they used these words. One was killed, the other rand away. On their was home they suddenly decided to go and kill one Elizabeth Zandime Khumalo, whom they knew her to be in opposition to the IFP ... MR VISSER: He was in Botswana, he met these people, and what happened then? MR NGHOBENI: "I wanted the community amongst whom I resided to realise that I had been falsely arrested because the police who had arrested me had shown or rendered evidence to the effect that uMkhonto weSizwe members were responsible for killing people." ADV DE JAGER: If you could just tell us that it appears on such and such a page and confirm it, then we would be satisfied, because I am not interested in where people were born or which schools they attended. This policeman who shot me used to play with the gun. He will just shoot upwards when the people are sitting in Jonas. CHAIRPERSON: But I wouldn't have thought that you people in the Security Police would have tapped each other's phones? |
