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people's warExplanation Showing 361 to 380 of 1003 First Page•Previous Page 15 •16 •17 •18 •19 •20 •21 •22 •23 Next Page•Last PageYour testimony concerns an experience that you had in July 1985 which is also indicative of the situation at that time and the way in which people were treated by the security forces, particularly the police. Now would you like to tell us what happened to you in July 1985. On 15 March, I was a member of those people who were taking the memorandum. He read the memorandum, he explained to us that 20 minutes we should disperse. When we were supposed to disperse, they gave an order that the police should shoot us. It was terrible. 3. Assaults on various people during the interrogation following the Cafe Zurich bomb explosion. The Committee is satisfied that the attack was associated with a political objective, that the Applicant has made a full disclosure of the role he played in the attack and of the identity of the other people involved. 3rd Applicant's evidence was that he drove the vehicle in which Schoon and 1st Applicant went to the function at Malopo's Oog. He was not part of any of the discussions relating to this incident. On the way back he recalls 1st Applicant and Schoon discussing things about a problem. He recalls ... each other and you shared with me and with other staff members, quite a bit about your own pain and suffering. Does the briefer want her to move forward a bit? Okay, we know that you have been aware of what other people have said this morning. There were quite a few people who presented to us ... Similarly on the question of proportionality, the context must be considered, he submitted. In those days, Applicant argued, the mere suspicion that one was an informer attracted the most dire consequences, because people's lives and livelihood were at stake. An informer could thus not be ignored. CHAIRPERSON: The reasons for yesterday's premature adjournment was that we needed a particular type of interpreter. This hearing was adjourned till nine o'clock this morning. It is now ten to ten. I speak on behalf of the panel. We are not very happy about that. Since this meeting was ... MDUDUZI GUMBI 1ST APPLICANT (AM0350/96) ROBERT ZUMA 2ND APPLICANT (AM0433/96) DECISION ... CHAIRPERSON: And then he said further that why they had the lunch hour is that people would go out of the building and it would minimise any casualties to civilians. I think you should put your question in perspective. No members of the IFP were arrested. However, it was the event of the 25th that lead to the charge and conviction of the applicant for the murder of four people. MR NORTJE: There were plantations and Hanton told me specifically that it wouldn't be a problem to leave the body there because there were not many people in the area and a possibility existed that wild animals would destroy the body ultimately. CHAIRPERSON: ...(start of tape) submissions and a ruling on the question relating to the disclosure of the names of certain people. I notice Mr Dreyer is not here but however this aspect does not really concern him, it's a point that was raised by Ms Monyane and it concerns obviously her and ... Everton, until the reached Zone 7 on foot because they were using shortcuts. And as I was alone at home I decided to sleep. As I was sleeping since the time he left it was about 7 o'clock, we slept with the children and his wife, at about 4 o'clock in the morning I heard a knock at my door and I ... MR SPHAMBO: Around 1980 I became on of the senior staff members of Kibashe, administration. Basically I went there as a counter-intelligence officer for the African National Congress and later I became the Deputy - I became an acting Chief of Staff of the camp. So during that time, it was a time ... ... as far as we could establish. In all the local newspapers there was advertisements placed last year as well as this year. Only one person came forward which is Ms Collette Dawson. Ms Dawson was available yesterday, she's actually present here today, she's one of the victims in this matter and ... CHAIRPERSON: Did you - when you laid the explosive device, what were your intentions with regard to injuring or killing people, if any? DR BORAINE: Good. It is nice to see a smile. Mrs Malobola, you are one of many people who were involved in the KwaNdebele massacre where many, many people lost their lives and one of them was your grandson and you have come to tell us your story today. Your heart must be full of pain as you ... After that, a week later, we buried my daughter. There were 11 people who had been shot by the police at the time. They were all buried at 49 Guguletu Stadium. ... he was referring to the whole crowd or some people within the crowd. Mr Ketile ran inside. The group started dispersing - some people ran back towards Street 8. Other people ran ... |
