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people's warExplanation Showing 361 to 380 of 1003 First Page•Previous Page 15 •16 •17 •18 •19 •20 •21 •22 •23 Next Page•Last PageCHAIRPERSON: We are nearly an hour late and apart from the inconvenience that it is causing to the Truth and Reconciliation Commission, to the legal people who are present, it also involves financial considerations. Money is wasted by delays such as this and I will see that steps are taken on ... MR MARHINQI: What I did, I was requested to be among the other people who would organise firearms. The community would meet and collect some money and thereafter the money would be given to a certain gentleman, there was a name, maybe that person was a treasurer or something, and after that he ... MR NDLOVU: Okay, at the time everybody, almost everyone knew that those apartheid structures, be it councillors or any other form of administration were actually targeted by the ANC and the armed wing to actually undermine those structures, to render the country ungovernable, to make sure that ... MR SHANE: So you got shot by these, one of these white people. Is that correct? It is therefore quite clear that the deceased was not perceived by the local people as an enemy. Although the applicant contended that he was not living in the old location and it was his first visit to this location, and he had never before this incident, seen a white man in the location, we do ... Similarly on the question of proportionality, the context must be considered, he submitted. In those days, Applicant argued, the mere suspicion that one was an informer attracted the most dire consequences, because people's lives and livelihood were at stake. An informer could thus not be ignored. Applicant was asked if he could distinguish a PAC member from an ANC member, and his response was that he could not. He concluded his testimony by stating that he only realises now that they were shooting at the wrong people, explaining that it was not easy to tell ANC persons apart from other ... Right, so they were helping you to provide a meeting where people could come and talk about their problems. CHAIRPERSON: Good morning to you all. I respectfully declare these proceedings opened, this, the 18th day of January 1999. These proceedings being amongst the first to be held by the Truth and Reconciliation's Amnesty Committee in the new year. Before we commence, may I welcome you all and take ... MR MAKHAWULA: No, I do not remember because I was never close to these people that we were shooting at. MRS RAMOSEPELE: He came home at night at about eleven o'clock. When he got home, I asked him where do you come from at this time. He told me that I had been arrested Phokeng earlier. I was arrested by the police of the former Boputhatswana government, because he had a T-shirt with Kotsilibone's ... three days to take evidence and they wanted to take a statement from me. Firstly one man who was a member of the ANC by the name of Bomba came to my place with other people whom I didn't know, they said to me that when police come to you you mustn't give them a statement. The police came and they ... Yes, Barnard was there and the employees - people who were working there. There were no other people except Barnard and the people who were working in court. Now the last one that made me to run away was in 1988. It was immediately after the coupe and I was told that I was part of the people that organized that. Of which I did not know nothing about. MR GOBIZEMBE: I left this country in 1976 and went into exile. When I got to Angola I was not trusted like others and was not treated well, I didn’t stay comfortably from the day that I arrived there. I said that I came to join the ANC but they didn’t trust me and regarded me as a State Agent ... INTERPRETER: He is referring to his co-accused, that's the people that he was talking to. For two weeks I was on tranquilisers and I didn’t know what was going on. People came to see me but I cannot remember who came. From then on we suffered. I lost my car because I could not afford to pay it as my husband used to pay it. I couldn’t afford the rent so I had to sell some of my ... The main focus of the Truth Commission up until now has been the overt killing, torture and severe ill-treatment of people either to uphold or breakdown the system of apartheid. We pay tribute to all children suffering in this regard. However, the violation of children's human rights extends ... DR ORR: Thank you Chairperson. Mr Jacobs thank you very much for coming here today. Who are the people with you? --- These are my two daughters. E M THUNYISWA: Even if I don't know the people who did this to me, but I would request you to sapina the Warrenton Police Station for the things that they did to people in the past. I have forgiven them. I would like my child to be educated, because my child doesn't have any sister, doesn't have ... |
