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people's warExplanation Showing 361 to 380 of 1003 First Page•Previous Page 15 •16 •17 •18 •19 •20 •21 •22 •23 Next Page•Last PageMEMBER OF PANEL: Mr Acting Chairperson, I would like to call upon Mrs Makiwane. Mrs Makiwane, before I can request that you can take an oath I would like to confirm the statement that you have given me. I would like to state that we are prepared to listen to your presentation so that if there are ... MR BOSCH: Yes, there was some movement, people were walking in and out at that stage. CHAIRPERSON: So none of the other people who gave evidence to us were there when the first body was burnt? MR ROSSOUW: And you did not see the people who were involved in there as well? PROF MAGWAZA: I see here you mention Mr Bezuidenhout as one of the people who tortured you. Is he the only one? Can you, do you have the identify of others? No, no, okay, well I am not going to ask you for the identity of others, but he is the only, is he the person who did most of the ... MR NAGI: We were arrested because the boers wanted to know, the people who crossed the border to Zambia. These people were Diliza Ghandi and others. around - so the one that was standing there with the shotgun said to me - los die vark af. Leave the pig alone. So I thought - jy is ‘n bloody coward. You are a bloody coward - and the two in the van they started laughing. So I said to them - Ja, witman gat honde - julle sal lag. White ... MR MNGUNI: The people were killing us in such a way that it was possible for us to engage in fighting and killing them ultimately in the event of us coming across them. MR ROBEY: They said they had a bit of difficulty when the incident took place, when the shooting started. A lot of people tried to surround them, they then, when they were running back to the vehicle, they fired a couple of shots in the air because there was a group of people trying to surround ... CHAIRPERSON: And then he said further that why they had the lunch hour is that people would go out of the building and it would minimise any casualties to civilians. I think you should put your question in perspective. MR LAMEY: While doing street patrols in Mamelodi in order to trace these MK people, is that correct? MS KIVA: Yes, people were assaulted that year. ADV DE JAGER: If you could just tell us that it appears on such and such a page and confirm it, then we would be satisfied, because I am not interested in where people were born or which schools they attended. The Applicant states that all the operations took place in 1990 and there would be a very short space of time between one attack and the next. Initially he reported to Junior in Botswana but later to Happy Letlapa Mpahlela who, with the unbanning of the liberation organisations, was able to ... MRS LEDWABA: When people had gone to funerals there were many Hippos. People were not even able to eat after the funerals because the police and the soldiers were shooting teargas. I buried my son with the help of the Church congregation. When we left for the cemetery the Hippos were also ... MS CRICHTON: And when these people came, you spoke to I was involved in the Inauguration of this hall, I went home to buy some cigarettes. I was just standing there and I went to the shop. It was just in between the hall and the Montana Cafè, I was standing there counting my money. While I was counting the money people shouted: Kulman testified that he was involved in two (2) farm attacks in the Zastron farming area. In the 1st attack it was himself, Roger and Induna. Kleintjie had already done the reconnaissance and informed them that there were no people who occupied the house. White farmers in the area were believed ... MS DANO: I am positive that he would be giving a list of people who had beaten him up. The Committee is satisfied that the attack was associated with a political objective, that the Applicant has made a full disclosure of the role he played in the attack and of the identity of the other people involved. |
