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people's warExplanation Showing 361 to 380 of 1003 First Page•Previous Page 15 •16 •17 •18 •19 •20 •21 •22 •23 Next Page•Last PageThis policeman who shot me used to play with the gun. He will just shoot upwards when the people are sitting in Jonas. MR JANSEN: Now in your work as a security policeman, how was it that you regarded the ANC, which was an organisation fighting for the liberation and the emancipation of black people, how was it that you as a black person regarded them as your enemy? MR DLUDLA: I learnt that there were people who had been sent to kill me. These were two Malodgwa sons, who are now deceased. CHAIRPERSON: So none of the other people who gave evidence to us were there when the first body was burnt? Yes, Barnard was there and the employees - people who were working there. There were no other people except Barnard and the people who were working in court. Now the last one that made me to run away was in 1988. It was immediately after the coupe and I was told that I was part of the people that organized that. Of which I did not know nothing about. MR GOBIZEMBE: I left this country in 1976 and went into exile. When I got to Angola I was not trusted like others and was not treated well, I didn’t stay comfortably from the day that I arrived there. I said that I came to join the ANC but they didn’t trust me and regarded me as a State Agent ... Various efforts were attempted, including resorting to the assistance of the police and no help ...[indistinct] the way of the community. The community tried its own endeavours, firstly by talking to the parents of the criminals concerned, in some instances assaulting them and in some instances ... three days to take evidence and they wanted to take a statement from me. Firstly one man who was a member of the ANC by the name of Bomba came to my place with other people whom I didn't know, they said to me that when police come to you you mustn't give them a statement. The police came and they ... ... it is because we were fleeing and we were not caught in Upington. I remained in those cells and it was very, very poor circumstances. Some of the warders and the officers, they swore at us especially when most of the comrades went out they swore at us. Sometimes we had to fight against these ... MS THABETHE: Mr Chair, I did ask him about it, he says he doesn't know the names of the people who actually carried out the assault, all he remembers is that from Maseru he was taken to Parys and from Parys he was taken to Bloemfontein and he was assaulted when he arrived at Parys but I didn't want ... that time I was sleeping at my place of work, but I was off on that Friday, and on my arrival my sister-in-law said the Special branch people were here again, looking for malawu. But having said that, I want to make it very clear that we understand the feelings that go through those who lost their people in the events about which we are going to be taking evidence from witnesses. But I want to emphasise that our training and the attitude of the Commission and this ... MS DANO: I am positive that he would be giving a list of people who had beaten him up. MR BOSCH: Yes, there was some movement, people were walking in and out at that stage. MS NOVEMBER: The area was quite dark. It had poor lighting in that area and it was placed in front of the door and mostly we, what we'd also noticed in that area, normally the litter gathers around the doorway and the milk carton was also part of the litter, like it was dirty and people were - ... DR BORAINE: Good. That is excellent. Mrs Mokhonwana, you have come to tell the story of your son, Obed, and we have been listening since early this morning about the KwaNdebele massacre, as it has become known, when at least nine people were killed and one of them was your son and you carry that ... MS TSHABALALA: This has become a family matter. There is a thing that we didn't discuss much, it seems as if it's something wrong that he did that caused his arrest. As a family and others we are the only people who knew exactly what happened. MR KOOPEDI: And what political motivation would you say you people had to have killed Alex Mashaba? ... only? That is the only evidence you had about the movements of the Modimeng family? This evidence that you are telling me now, that you were aware, was it only the information from the informants only, or you had other people from your branch, just like you did Mr Pretorius, this one was ... |
