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people's warExplanation Showing 381 to 400 of 1003 First Page•Previous Page 16 •17 •18 •19 •20 •21 •22 •23 •24 Next Page•Last PageCertainly. --- On the 13th November I was present at the meeting and after the police shot tear gas at the crowd on the soccer field, I then just wanted to get home. What happened later is that the police came to arrest us. They had Casspirs vehicles there and we were loaded one on top of the ... MS VILAKAZI: I would be in a position to do so, although it would be hearsay. It would be better conveyed by the family itself, but from the consultation, what came to light is the fact that there have been personal problems, call it jealousy if you wish, between the deceased, his family and ... MS NHLAYISI: Can you explain who were the people who were attacking at Slovo, when you were called that you should come and render assistance? This, obviously, annoyed the ANC and their committee in exile decided that I had to be eliminated. A letter was written to the Rivonia High Command by Theunissen Makiwane, who was then in charge of the ANC office in Dar es Salaam while Oliver Thambo was in London. This letter was then sent to ... CHAIRPERSON: But I wouldn't have thought that you people in the Security Police would have tapped each other's phones? MR VISSER: He was in Botswana, he met these people, and what happened then? MR NGHOBENI: "I wanted the community amongst whom I resided to realise that I had been falsely arrested because the police who had arrested me had shown or rendered evidence to the effect that uMkhonto weSizwe members were responsible for killing people." MR JANSEN: Now in your work as a security policeman, how was it that you regarded the ANC, which was an organisation fighting for the liberation and the emancipation of black people, how was it that you as a black person regarded them as your enemy? ADV DE JAGER: If you could just tell us that it appears on such and such a page and confirm it, then we would be satisfied, because I am not interested in where people were born or which schools they attended. CHAIRPERSON: Would you agree that in the violence that occurred during that time, and in particular I am talking about the Tokoza area, many people died? This policeman who shot me used to play with the gun. He will just shoot upwards when the people are sitting in Jonas. Although we do not find that the applicant, on the day of the incident, acted in self-defence or as an active supporter of the ANC of long standing, we are satisfied that in the circumstances that prevailed on that day he acted in support of the sentiments of the people who opposed the Mangope ... The Applicant testified that he planned an overthrow of the Lucas Mangope regime and that he involved some members of the National Executive of the People's Progressive Party and Bophuthatswana soldiers in the process. If we have gone on with some evidence we will interpose the Cry Freedom applications to dispose of them. The reason for this is that it appears possible, if not probably, that the hearing will not be completed by Friday and it seems ridiculous that people who are only involved in the Cry Freedom ... We as the Commission, we will try to help people with regard to this matter. Your request is that if your husband died, you want his remains to be brought back to you so that they can be reburied and I think we will look at this matter. CHAIRPERSON: You were connected were you not, with other incidents where explosive devices were sent to people? ... when a Springbok Patrol vehicle passed that place and they could not continue with the robbery. My question to you Mr de Kock is whether you are aware that the first attempt to rob Coin Security took place approximately a day or two before the Carousel ... One policeman by the name of Matambo, Philip's friend and he said that his father said that Philip has been shot and Mr Matambo saw him fall down and when he went there to check he found out it was Philip. This boy asked us not to say that we heard this news from him because it was secret ... Both, or all these three incidents, it does appear that the applicant was in the company of a superior or of other people he regarded as his own comrades, and in execution of a mission which was tabled or which was agreed upon between the members or was the instructions, the direct instructions of ... REV XUNDU: What did the people at the Alexandra Funeral Undertakers say? Who gave them authority to take the body? |
