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people's warExplanation Showing 461 to 480 of 1003 First Page•Previous Page 20 •21 •22 •23 •24 •25 •26 •27 •28 Next Page•Last PageYes sir, it is as the previous speaker said according to the time and everything where the Captain issued the - the order for them to shoot and hardly 5 minutes thereafter they started shooting. And I went to hide at the walls and moved that way but before the people started dispersing I walked ... MR SELOANE: Yes, the attack was politically motivated. In the Unit I was part of, Akila was operation's person, Stanza was our Commander and I was the Political Commissar. We were working with Youth Organisations and Student Organisations and as Akila indicated, you know the Police were the enemy ... Fourie testified that he was a member of the Piet Retief Security Police under the command of W/O Frank Pienaar. He states that in the building they encountered about two (2) women and two (2) black youths. He ordered them to remain silent. They were never assaulted or abused by anyone of them. ... MR SIBANYONI: In fact what I am trying to find out, were all these people MK people including this woman? Everybody who was to participate in the operation was then briefed and given instructions. Those from Vlakplaas who participated were the 1st, 2nd, 7th, 10th and 14th applicants. From Piet Retief were participating the 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th applicants. They took up positions for the ... MR NAUDE: C2 was not personally involved with the handling of informants, but to a greater degree, we did recruitments. We infiltrated members of the freedom movements and we interrogated people in detention concerning the training and the facilities of the organisations outside of South Africa. MR LEWIN: Also in your statement Ma Motloung, you mentioned some specific names who people who Lindiwe said she saw actually shooting him. Was there ever a case made against them ? Any charge brought against them ? MR BORAINE: Chairperson, for one reason or another we've had to change the order a little bit, so I hope the witnesses aren't becoming confused, everybody will be heard, but we are just trying to accommodate different people's needs. MR BRINK: He was in the security van when the van was ambushed by a number of these people and he was killed. After this incident, all of the ANC members, including the two applicants, left Gengeshe to stay at Ndaleni an ANC stronghold situated on the outskirts of Richmond. Their homes, which were abandoned, were burnt down. According to the police docket 30 homes were destroyed. Subsequent attempts to ... MR MANDLAZI: Sizwe would not have been beaten had he not been aggressive towards the questions that we were asking him about with regards to the arrest of Thandi Modise because to us it was just unbelievable that a person could work with a person inside the country, be involved in the ferrying of ... MR NEMANE: Mr Chairman, one must bear in mind that these are relatively unsophisticated people doing things on their own. The office was crowded by people. Then they asked me, are you the wife of the sell-out? I was pregnant at the time, the pregnancy was eight months. ... and in the course of the conversation De Kock told Nieuwoudt that he had supplied the weapons for the Duli attempted coup. Nieuwoudt was not aware of this fact. Nieuwoudt said the overthrow should not be seen as a failure at that stage because there were four (4) other people with AK47 ... MR LAX: One other aspect of your application concerns me a great deal and that is you have not told us anything about how you came to part him with his money and his watch. What happened to his money and his watch? You people stole R400 from him and you took his watch and you were convicted of ... Firstly his political affiliation is quite different. In his application he stated that he was a member of the African National Congress and Umkhonto weSizwe whereas in his evidence he stated that he was a supporter of the Black Consciousness Movement. Secondly he implicates a number of other ... It is common cause that in Durban black people were members or supporters of several political organisations or liberation movements, namely the ANC, SACP, PAC and the IFP. I was told that this very notorious policeman of Special Branch in Soweto has been terrorising our people, the school children and so on. Jabu and the other group went into a rigorous training in - after the assessment was made of people who come from that area, who knew the area very well and ... ... [Indistinct] ... want to repeat the Chairperson's welcome. Thank you for sitting here through what has been a long day. It is not easy coming towards the end of a day when we have heard many very painful and difficult stories and I hope the audience will give you as much attention as they ... Now Mr Chairman, you will see that Brig Cronje there applied for each and every incident which the people who worked under him applied for. He refers there to Col Loots, Van Vuuren, Hechter, Viktor, Goosen, Roos and Crafford, but it's not a full complete list. Then you will see on the marked ... |
