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people's warExplanation Showing 461 to 480 of 1003 First Page•Previous Page 20 •21 •22 •23 •24 •25 •26 •27 •28 Next Page•Last Pagetrial that followed. So I would like to ask you to perhaps start from the actual day of the incident, the 13th of November and tell us from there onwards what happened to you. --- I am going to ask for forgiveness that I am not educated, first of all, I will not be able to give the dates in ... CHAIRPERSON: ...(inaudible) an affidavit from those people attached to this? CHAIRPERSON: Thank you very much for coming forward. It must have been difficult for you to come and share about those experiences especially in view of the fact that some of the violations that you are talking about occurred in the context of people you believed in. We will, certainly, pass on ... MR LEWIN: Could I ask, just to go back, before I pass onto other people who might have other questions. How old was your son when he left in 1976? MR KHOTLE: We are people of flesh and blood, we should be able to have food and have guns so that we would be able to continue with the struggle. MR NORTJE: It was late at night, because the idea was that there wouldn't be any people in the vicinity who could spot us, so if I said 9 o'clock, it may have been too early, I think it was a bit later. I do recall that it was very quiet, that no-one was out and about. CHAIRMAN: I just want to ask you a question. Were there any endeavours to report the Government, because your people came back from detention in ill-health. I do not know whether you understand me well? The Committee find it highly improbable that when the applicant took a decision on his own, he would do so with people unknown to him and agree to share equally with them and thereafter hand his share to Mabina. Viewing this application objectively, the applicant would have approached members of ... This occurred at Tsakane Section in Mamelodi in the evening of the 15 April 1988 and was carried out by Legodi and Kgotsa. Initially they conducted the reconnaissance around the place for several days. They then contacted Toka and Maponya for permission to go ahead with the attack. Toka told ... MR MAKOMA: It is not a normal thing to do, to know the people with their names. If you are told that these comrades are members of PAC, that should satisfy you. I was not interested in knowing their names. ... as aforesaid were in line with the policies and activities of the PAC and APLA and were aimed at making white people and the Government of the day aware of the urgent need for political change. We are further satisfied that the actions of the applicants occurred during the conflicts of the past ... B MBALO: Yes, I can explain. In 1993 the COSAS asked that students should go and march in town. Then on Friday there is a river in our town, on a Friday there were many policemen beyond the river stopping people not to go to town until twelve o'clock when the school children would be taking ... CHAIRPERSON: Thank you Reverend for starting our day for us by a prayer. We welcome people who are going to appear before the Commission to-day on our last day in Kingwilliam’s Town. We will ask Ms Maya to give us the order of the day. Thank you Mr Chairperson. MR DE KOCK: Chairperson, I did not work with the mechanism itself, that was the work of the Technical division, but I do know that it was linked to a battery and I think it is something similar to a watch battery, so it would have run out after a period of time, which have rendered the device ... It is common cause that when the first and the second applicants were taking the deceased to the police station, he pulled out a gun and before he could fire at any person, the first applicant fired a shot at the deceased using a firearm he had been given earlier on by the third applicant. After ... MR MOGOAI: Those are the people that I met for the first time when I was taken to that base. It was a caravan like house that I was taken to. Those are the people that I left with to that place. If I was in their company, then Mr Mngadi was the driver, because Mr Mbelo and Nzimande were not ... MR NDUKU: The people were singing freedom songs, the Police. Fourie testified that he was a member of the Piet Retief Security Police under the command of W/O Frank Pienaar. He states that in the building they encountered about two (2) women and two (2) black youths. He ordered them to remain silent. They were never assaulted or abused by anyone of them. ... At that time in Barkley West - Barkley West was quiet and people were not yet aware of what was happening. And sometimes I would get advice from my friends at Kimberley. They were only giving me advice on political matters and when I was at Barkley I realised that many parents at that time ... DR RANDERA: When your brother returned to the country, did the police not start coming back again and questioning you people again? |
