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people's warExplanation Showing 461 to 480 of 1003 First Page•Previous Page 20 •21 •22 •23 •24 •25 •26 •27 •28 Next Page•Last PageREV XUNDU: Here in your statement you mentioned that there were some people there in this car who had balaclavers do you perhaps know who these people were, or were they members of an organisation? MR JOUBERT : Can you recall whether there were any other people present or not? MR BOSCH: It may be mistaken that he was involved in the incident that would be heard tomorrow or the day after, but I know there were other people. Incidentally who in the Army is deciding that, are they MK people or SADF people? CHAIRPERSON: Because it has become obvious during the few days we have been here that there are difficulties in conducting hearings here in Durban where the incident took place, in the North or South Coast and where the people live there. I went to ANC offices complaining that my son is not coming back. I asked the ANC office to look for him. They gave me another date to come back. I then came back. I met one man, but I do not remember his surname. His name was Galikie, Yoyong Galikie. He said that he was going to phone ... MR KNIGHT: Thank you Mr Chairman. With regard to Mr Mfalapitsa, Mr Chairman, there appears to be a breakdown in communication in obtain his instructions as well as to having him here today. Arrangements were made at the inception of this hearing for him to be present today and there were interim ... ... We find this aspect highly improbable. Ndinisani concedes that he saw the children sitting around a fire in the yard and claims to have fired a warning shot so as to avoid shooting innocent people. His subsequent shooting of the women who he conceded had nothing to do with the attacks, thus ... The fifth applicant was a constable in the Venda Police Force at the time. He testified that he was called upon to participate in the interrogation of suspects. He and his colleagues were instructed that people who were against the government should be assaulted. He admitted that he ... He testified that Congress Mtsweni introduced him to two persons called Mike and James. Mike and James, who were in fact Joe Mamasela and the 2nd Applicant respectively, had asked Congress to introduce them to Mr Mazibuko and John Mlangeni, as they were wanting to establish units to defend the ... These commanders did not specify their individual names as they are accepting collective responsibility for any act, omission, offence or delict committed by members of the PAC as a result of which people died, others were injured and property was damaged (paragraph 9(b) of the application form, ... MRS BALOYI: In 1986 on the 11th it was at about one o' clock when I came back from work I sat in the house. Whilst there it was time to go to sleep. Whilst I was sleeping my husband came in and said to me it seems as if the police are bombing are houses nowadays ... I saw some fire and the house ... MR VISSER: Did you aim specifically at persons or did you aim at the vehicle, at places where you would have expected to find people seated? At an early stage, Chairperson, when the amnesty process started, Mr Kasrils together with other leading ANC members, that is members of the National Executive Committee, they all completed application forms which were to a certain extent, applications for amnesty for these leaders who were taking ... MRS TLOU: No, it didn't, because the police came to us the previous night and then they told us that usually we Black people we do this thing called Melindela. So they told us that we must not do that. They are not going to allowing that. I was unemployed at the time, I didn't have money, I didn't know what to do. Then I went to the ANC people to tell my position and these are the people who helped me MR JACKSON: I tried to run away at the time of the shooting and I could see people behind me falling in great numbers. I tried to run, but I just couldn't. Then I decided to check on my body and my foot, and I could feel that there was something wrong with my foot. My knee was twisted and some ... And he said when I am calling you, you must rush, you must come quickly, I said yes I am coming. Whilst I am still taking out this money and then this man shot me whilst I was standing with Simon. He - he shot us and Simon picked me up and we ran - jumped the fence and I couldn’t jump the ... ... hearing now, and this letter indicated that they never received any notice and the one documentation. Now on the strength of him not having been aware of the notice service at the AW offices, the documents were then sent to them last week Friday, couriered, because, Mr Chairman, we don't serve ... DR RAMASHALA: One of the tasks of the Commission is to find as much detail as possible about the nature of torture that was perpetrated on people in South Africa. |
