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people's warExplanation Showing 501 to 520 of 1003 First Page•Previous Page 22 •23 •24 •25 •26 •27 •28 •29 •30 Next Page•Last PageIncidentally who in the Army is deciding that, are they MK people or SADF people? [Indistinct] ... to get the situation clear in my mind, on the day when you were shot what was the situation in Paballelo? Was there unrest? Was there police activity?--- There was unrest during that time. As you know, every year on the 15th June arrangements are made for the commemoration on ... Once at Umgababa he, his co-Applicants and other people from his area joined some sort of self-defence units and engaged in training with firearms and other weapons. They were involved in a number of attacks and incidents of political violence against neighbouring areas that were prevalent at the ... These commanders did not specify their individual names as they are accepting collective responsibility for any act, omission, offence or delict committed by members of the PAC as a result of which people died, others were injured and property was damaged (paragraph 9(b) of the application form, ... MR HOBOYI: The people who attacked us, we didn't know where they were coming from. We were asleep, it was me and the other twins were staying next door to us. The house was a newly-built house, it didn't have burglar proofing. Outside I heard gunshots. I was dreaming of people MR KNIGHT: Thank you Mr Chairman. With regard to Mr Mfalapitsa, Mr Chairman, there appears to be a breakdown in communication in obtain his instructions as well as to having him here today. Arrangements were made at the inception of this hearing for him to be present today and there were interim ... CHAIRPERSON: Because it has become obvious during the few days we have been here that there are difficulties in conducting hearings here in Durban where the incident took place, in the North or South Coast and where the people live there. He testified that Congress Mtsweni introduced him to two persons called Mike and James. Mike and James, who were in fact Joe Mamasela and the 2nd Applicant respectively, had asked Congress to introduce them to Mr Mazibuko and John Mlangeni, as they were wanting to establish units to defend the ... ... We find this aspect highly improbable. Ndinisani concedes that he saw the children sitting around a fire in the yard and claims to have fired a warning shot so as to avoid shooting innocent people. His subsequent shooting of the women who he conceded had nothing to do with the attacks, thus ... MR SIBEKO: Will I be correct to say that in both incidents you were carrying and AK47 which you used to shoot against the people you were fighting with? MS SOOKA: Were there other people who were shot in the same incident, by the same man? MRS NKENKE: Yes, there was going to be a prayer meeting concerning the people that were shot in 1983. MR VILAKAZI: That is correct because in one incident when we were at a night vigil for comrade Mati, these people who were in the company of Sgt Meyer arrived and attacked us. I do not know how they got ...(indistinct) to attack the MG funeral or not, so it was obvious at that time that they ... Van Dyk ordered him to conduct an interrogation of Mngomezulu. He did so, did not get any information except a few names of people that he did not know. He never assaulted Mngomezulu. He decided that continued interrogation would serve no purpose and that he had to be returned to ... Then a Hippo arrived. There were police, white policemen. They asked me if I knew Abraham was dead in KwaNdebele. They said we do not want more than 50 people at the funeral. I went to KwaNdebele. I could not find corpses at the Government Mortuary. Where I found them I could not see ... CHAIRPERSON: I greet you Ms Solomon. Thank you for your patience and tolerance but, you knew that your turn would ultimately come. In your statement you have referred to the fact that your husband, Nicholas Pakamile Solomon was one of the people who were shot dead on this day in question, is that ... CHAIRPERSON: That, if that could be done, we certainly would appreciate it because setting up a hearing like this is not an easy task. People have come from afar, at a cost and obviously we've also got an interest to get through our long list of hearings. We would very much as a panel, appreciate ... MR MATJENI: I'm not able to state anything in regard to the photo album because it was used in various operations, it was shown to many people. But I don't remember in this particular instance whether the album was used. MR VISSER: But you knew that the objective would be to attempt to kill if possible, these people? Pursuant to this decision, Applicant and a number of other ANC Youth League members proceeded to the Dysselsdorp police station on 22 June 1991 where they occupied the premises. At one stage three policemen were present at the police station, but two of them managed to escape leaving Mr Tarentaal ... |
