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people's warExplanation Showing 521 to 540 of 1003 First Page•Previous Page 23 •24 •25 •26 •27 •28 •29 •30 •31 Next Page•Last PageMR NDZAMELA: I would like to apologise to them and I would like to add that we did not aim at certain people or certain families even though they were affected, so I'm sorry, I apologise for what happened. MS MAYA: Are there people who had been arrested in connection with this matter? CHAIRPERSON: ... (microphone not on) ... taking a look at the papers before us, on what basis was it that Mr Dube was included in this hearing? I mean if people are sitting in Cape Town now, and they are setting down the hearings, how would it, how would they in Cape Town have linked Mr Dube's ... First applicant had deposed to an affidavit which forms part of the record before us, and basically confirmed its contents in his testimony. His version briefly summarised is to the effect that he is a member of the Pan Africanist Congress, the PAC, as well as the Azanian People's Liberation ... T DECEMBER: No, I never even attempted to go to the lawyers, because at that time people were not even allowed to take any steps of that nature, otherwise you would be the next. Crause testified that he accompanied Loots, Smit, Wehrmann and Modise. He helped Modise to cross the flooded Ramotswe river and thereafter accompanied him to a house which he pointed out as the target to the Special Forces members. He and Modise then stayed behind while the three members ... All the Applicants testified that they then noticed a group of people at the Tavern with Selai who had been captured and was being interrogated and assaulted for having assisted the IFP in terrorising the community. The fourth Applicant stabbed Selai on his hand with a knife. The second Applicant ... From there he couldn't sleep, he had nightmares and blood was flowing all over. Some of them couldn't even walk. Then they said, "Your boy are stubborn, you write in the newspapers that we policemen are killing people". On that newspaper it was written that police were killing people and they ... MS SOOKA: Can I ask people please to keep quiet. MR LAMEY: Did you foresee the possibility, and when I refer to this incident I also refer to the other incident, that people could be injured and/or killed? CHAIRPERSON: Were these two people injured in the cross-fire? 2. The deceased was a chairperson of the ANC in the area. The applicant was an IFP supporter. His family had been killed by ANC people. Applicant had only heard that the deceased was responsible for the killing of his family. However, the deceased was at the forefront of the peace negotiations ... These people were innocent people whom he had approached. He had no reason at the time to think they were a threat to his life or political status. It was he who approached them. There was no prospect of achieving any political objective by his actions. We are therefore not satisfied that the ... MR MZINZI: I was shot at the same time with the other people. We were just approaching section 16. I was in the third row in that procession and what actually happened I saw Kwanele at the time he was falling and then when I was turning to run away I also saw myself falling down. Whilst I was ... In incident 16 five people were killed and nine injured in the explosion at the Sanlam Shopping Centre in Amanzimtoti. Once again, none of the Applicants has applied for amnesty in respect of this incident. This is very difficult for other mothers and other parents who are here today. The question is - what is most difficult is that we have to bring you here and to talk about your pain and then watch you [indistinct] in pain - you had to deal with the tragedy of your loss. It is very painful, but ... MRS TLWAELO: In 1991, William Mateketa was working at Afrikanerweg No 22, very close to Klerksdorp. It was a place belonging to a certain Strydom. At the end of the month my husband didn't get his salary as people were getting theirs. He enquired from this person why he doesn't get his salary. ... MR MAUBA: On the day on which we killed the deceased, on my arrival at the home of the deceased, I was one of the people who knocked the door so that the deceased could get out of the house. On knocking ... MR HUGO: Mr Chairman, we submit that our argument would be the same. What was actually more enlightening was when Mr de Kock said that if the problems with the protection of sensitive information, that they actually went so far as to kill people to protect those sensitive information and details ... MR DLAMINI: There were people who assisted. |
