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people's warExplanation Showing 521 to 540 of 1003 First Page•Previous Page 23 •24 •25 •26 •27 •28 •29 •30 •31 Next Page•Last PageMR DE KOCK: Chairperson, I did not work with the mechanism itself, that was the work of the Technical division, but I do know that it was linked to a battery and I think it is something similar to a watch battery, so it would have run out after a period of time, which have rendered the device ... MR MOGOAI: Those are the people that I met for the first time when I was taken to that base. It was a caravan like house that I was taken to. Those are the people that I left with to that place. If I was in their company, then Mr Mngadi was the driver, because Mr Mbelo and Nzimande were not ... It is common cause that when the first and the second applicants were taking the deceased to the police station, he pulled out a gun and before he could fire at any person, the first applicant fired a shot at the deceased using a firearm he had been given earlier on by the third applicant. After ... The attack on Ledig Police Station would be seen as a sign of hope by the Ledig people as the police of Bophuthatswana portrayed themselves as invincible. This would be a moral boost. CHAIRPERSON: I just would like to confirm what you say in your application, if you still agree with it, that one of the reasons for you monitoring the border post at Oshoek was to make sure that Mohale didn't travel with a larger group of people than was expected? MR NORTJE: It was late at night, because the idea was that there wouldn't be any people in the vicinity who could spot us, so if I said 9 o'clock, it may have been too early, I think it was a bit later. I do recall that it was very quiet, that no-one was out and about. After leaving hospital I went daily for physiotherapy for a year and during that period I went for another operation, a bone graft. I walked on crutches for two and a half years and had to depend on other people for assistance. My life was changed overnight. I lost my job and my medical aid. I ... CHAIRPERSON: Thank you very much for coming forward. It must have been difficult for you to come and share about those experiences especially in view of the fact that some of the violations that you are talking about occurred in the context of people you believed in. We will, certainly, pass on ... CHAIRPERSON: ...(inaudible) an affidavit from those people attached to this? trial that followed. So I would like to ask you to perhaps start from the actual day of the incident, the 13th of November and tell us from there onwards what happened to you. --- I am going to ask for forgiveness that I am not educated, first of all, I will not be able to give the dates in ... Yes sir, it is as the previous speaker said according to the time and everything where the Captain issued the - the order for them to shoot and hardly 5 minutes thereafter they started shooting. And I went to hide at the walls and moved that way but before the people started dispersing I walked ... MR SELOANE: Yes, the attack was politically motivated. In the Unit I was part of, Akila was operation's person, Stanza was our Commander and I was the Political Commissar. We were working with Youth Organisations and Student Organisations and as Akila indicated, you know the Police were the enemy ... MR SHANDU: You would not know about young people back from the independence days. He said that is not independence day. I saw the South African flag and the flag of Bophuthatswana because independence, when there is freedom, you will see all the flags of many countries. So that is not ... After this incident, all of the ANC members, including the two applicants, left Gengeshe to stay at Ndaleni an ANC stronghold situated on the outskirts of Richmond. Their homes, which were abandoned, were burnt down. According to the police docket 30 homes were destroyed. Subsequent attempts to ... MR SIBANYONI: In fact what I am trying to find out, were all these people MK people including this woman? MR MANDLAZI: Sizwe would not have been beaten had he not been aggressive towards the questions that we were asking him about with regards to the arrest of Thandi Modise because to us it was just unbelievable that a person could work with a person inside the country, be involved in the ferrying of ... MR NEMANE: Mr Chairman, one must bear in mind that these are relatively unsophisticated people doing things on their own. I was on my way to work - Oranje Co-operative. On my way to work I was stopped by a group of people and they forced me to go to a meeting. I was aware of the meeting but I hadn't planned to go to the meeting but they forced me to go and I was then forced to the soccer field of the Eleven ... MR BORAINE: Chairperson, for one reason or another we've had to change the order a little bit, so I hope the witnesses aren't becoming confused, everybody will be heard, but we are just trying to accommodate different people's needs. MR BRINK: He was in the security van when the van was ambushed by a number of these people and he was killed. |
