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people's warExplanation Showing 521 to 540 of 1003 First Page•Previous Page 23 •24 •25 •26 •27 •28 •29 •30 •31 Next Page•Last PageCHAIRPERSON: ...(inaudible) an affidavit from those people attached to this? trial that followed. So I would like to ask you to perhaps start from the actual day of the incident, the 13th of November and tell us from there onwards what happened to you. --- I am going to ask for forgiveness that I am not educated, first of all, I will not be able to give the dates in ... The attack on Ledig Police Station would be seen as a sign of hope by the Ledig people as the police of Bophuthatswana portrayed themselves as invincible. This would be a moral boost. CHAIRPERSON: I just would like to confirm what you say in your application, if you still agree with it, that one of the reasons for you monitoring the border post at Oshoek was to make sure that Mohale didn't travel with a larger group of people than was expected? Applicant did not know any of the attackers but was informed by Mutwa that they were people opposed to the police. After his discharge from hospital Applicant and Mutwa were reprimanded and assaulted by their Commander Captain Vermeulen who was upset by the incident. It is common cause that when the first and the second applicants were taking the deceased to the police station, he pulled out a gun and before he could fire at any person, the first applicant fired a shot at the deceased using a firearm he had been given earlier on by the third applicant. After ... MR DE KOCK: Chairperson, I did not work with the mechanism itself, that was the work of the Technical division, but I do know that it was linked to a battery and I think it is something similar to a watch battery, so it would have run out after a period of time, which have rendered the device ... MR LEWIN: Could I ask, just to go back, before I pass onto other people who might have other questions. How old was your son when he left in 1976? MR KHOTLE: We are people of flesh and blood, we should be able to have food and have guns so that we would be able to continue with the struggle. CHAIRMAN: I just want to ask you a question. Were there any endeavours to report the Government, because your people came back from detention in ill-health. I do not know whether you understand me well? MRS TONISI: We would hear from people in the township that they were in these different places. We did not receive any letters from him and he never phoned us. Apart of the process of healing in our land we hear the stories of what took place and the chief aim is reconciliation - ons soek na die waarheid. We are searching for the truth - in what we want is actually healing and reconciliation in our land and we appreciate the fact that so many people are ... After this incident, all of the ANC members, including the two applicants, left Gengeshe to stay at Ndaleni an ANC stronghold situated on the outskirts of Richmond. Their homes, which were abandoned, were burnt down. According to the police docket 30 homes were destroyed. Subsequent attempts to ... MR SIBANYONI: In fact what I am trying to find out, were all these people MK people including this woman? Fourie testified that he was a member of the Piet Retief Security Police under the command of W/O Frank Pienaar. He states that in the building they encountered about two (2) women and two (2) black youths. He ordered them to remain silent. They were never assaulted or abused by anyone of them. ... MR MANDLAZI: Sizwe would not have been beaten had he not been aggressive towards the questions that we were asking him about with regards to the arrest of Thandi Modise because to us it was just unbelievable that a person could work with a person inside the country, be involved in the ferrying of ... MR NEMANE: Mr Chairman, one must bear in mind that these are relatively unsophisticated people doing things on their own. Everybody who was to participate in the operation was then briefed and given instructions. Those from Vlakplaas who participated were the 1st, 2nd, 7th, 10th and 14th applicants. From Piet Retief were participating the 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th applicants. They took up positions for the ... MR BORAINE: Chairperson, for one reason or another we've had to change the order a little bit, so I hope the witnesses aren't becoming confused, everybody will be heard, but we are just trying to accommodate different people's needs. MR BRINK: He was in the security van when the van was ambushed by a number of these people and he was killed. |
