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people's warExplanation Showing 521 to 540 of 1003 First Page•Previous Page 23 •24 •25 •26 •27 •28 •29 •30 •31 Next Page•Last PageMR MUHADI: I can start by on the 6th, when I was at home, I heard my sister saying that there were people who were calling me and on getting out, I realised that it was Abel who said I was expected to attend the meeting because ... CHAIRPERSON: That, if that could be done, we certainly would appreciate it because setting up a hearing like this is not an easy task. People have come from afar, at a cost and obviously we've also got an interest to get through our long list of hearings. We would very much as a panel, appreciate ... MR DE KOCK: Chairperson, when one compiles such a parcel usually, as it was in the struggle of the past, our objective was to kill someone, we didn't go out to injure people, at least not we who worked at Vlakplaas and certainly not the Commandant. What I do know is that the person who was supposed ... The applicant says that as a result of this incident, he resolved to avenge himself. Although he did not know the identity of the perpetrators, he decided to kill members or supporters of the UDF. He purchased a firearm on the 22nd of April 1990, he and his friend Beki Patrick Zwane went to a ... MR VISSER: The point is that if you observe people, you don't actually want them to know that you're doing it. MR GOOSEN: Chairperson, as indicated, I remained in the vehicle. I simply heard the sound of the explosion, so I'm unaware which target was targeted during the explosion and whether or not people were injured. MR VENTER: My instructions given to me by Colonel Erwee was that if in our attempts to arrest these people, if some of them should escape and run in a northerly direction, then they would have come straight in our direction and we would then have to arrest them. ADV POTGIETER: And it subsequently appeared that you were shot amongst other things? Could anybody else except the people who were in the hippo, have been responsible for shooting you? The applicant testified and confirmed his affidavit, which forms part of the record, as well as the three application forms which form part of the bundle of the documents before us. Applicant joined the PAC in 1985 whilst still a scholar. In 1991 he joined the PAC Task Force whose duties he ... MR SANDI: Are those people still around in the community? it will not support your son's child. You have requested this amount and this shows that you just want your son's child to be educated. We will forward your request to the President of this ... Good before I ask you to tell us a little bit about yourself and then also to tell us about your daughter, I would like to just read some of the context statement that has been prepared by your research team so that we understand what the context was and - at the time of your daughter's shooting. ... The first applicant testified that the present meeting, prior to the incident, during which a decision was taken that licensed weapons would be carried when members of the AWB marched to the meeting, he was in the forefront of the procession together with the second applicant and was arrested ... MR SIBEKO: Will I be correct to say that in both incidents you were carrying and AK47 which you used to shoot against the people you were fighting with? T DECEMBER: No, I never even attempted to go to the lawyers, because at that time people were not even allowed to take any steps of that nature, otherwise you would be the next. CHAIRPERSON: Before we carry on with that, we're referring to this person, or two people at least, as "beeswagters", is it common cause that they were "beeswagters"? CHAIRPERSON: Yes, as implicated people, but not applicants? Have you got your notices? But in another way - it could be, because you hear, that all though he was killed in this gruesome way, for the people of the community - he died as a hero. And so as his daughter, you can gain encouragement from the knowledge that you have a father who paid this very heavy price, but gave his ... MR MNGONA: Even in the community, things should be improved, the schools, the villages, everything in our community so that we can enjoy life just like other people in other areas. MS MTANGA: You mentioned that your Commander was Thebogo. Were there other people who were members of the unit and if so, what were their names? |
