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people's warExplanation Showing 541 to 560 of 1003 First Page•Previous Page 24 •25 •26 •27 •28 •29 •30 •31 •32 Next Page•Last PageMR KOEKEMOER: I don't know who exactly went to fetch Mr Bambo. The person who signed for him, it's not clear on the form, but I do believe it was one of W/O Grobler's people and I do not know whether W/O Grobler was with. We may mentioned of course that when we saw the application itself, that is the application for the amnesty, it refers to murders etcetera, etcetera, but we were are told that the whole thing, the whole truth and all the circumstances surrounding the death of those people, would in fact be ... At an early stage, Chairperson, when the amnesty process started, Mr Kasrils together with other leading ANC members, that is members of the National Executive Committee, they all completed application forms which were to a certain extent, applications for amnesty for these leaders who were taking ... MR VISSER: Did you aim specifically at persons or did you aim at the vehicle, at places where you would have expected to find people seated? During December 1989 a watershed meeting was called by the UDF in Kabusi township. This meeting was attended by high-profiled UDF and local leaders. The meeting was held in the Matomela church hall in the township. The hall was unable to accommodate the masses who had turned up for the meeting. ... I was unemployed at the time, I didn't have money, I didn't know what to do. Then I went to the ANC people to tell my position and these are the people who helped me MR JACKSON: I tried to run away at the time of the shooting and I could see people behind me falling in great numbers. I tried to run, but I just couldn't. Then I decided to check on my body and my foot, and I could feel that there was something wrong with my foot. My knee was twisted and some ... MR DOS SANTOS: Yes, we always had Pentolite and other forms of explosives that we used for destroying things. We would also have explosives which had been picked up by people on their property. We had many sorts of explosives which we would make use of. The applicants were all below the age of 18 at the time of the commission of the offence. They believed that they were acting on behalf of the Youth League. They were part of a large group of people and, as the Trial Court found, were probably subjected to peer pressure. MRS BALOYI: In 1986 on the 11th it was at about one o' clock when I came back from work I sat in the house. Whilst there it was time to go to sleep. Whilst I was sleeping my husband came in and said to me it seems as if the police are bombing are houses nowadays ... I saw some fire and the house ... MRS TLOU: No, it didn't, because the police came to us the previous night and then they told us that usually we Black people we do this thing called Melindela. So they told us that we must not do that. They are not going to allowing that. MR BELLINGAN: Chairperson, I do not have all the details, but I believe it would have been the movement of people and vehicles which stopped or went past that specific house, but the finer details I cannot remember. CHAIRPERSON: And so you went, it is recorded as you're saying - "She then went to the shebeen. After about 10 minutes I followed her. I went there to call her. She came and said there aren't any people there". ADV GCABASHE : Was it busy, were there people there or was it absolutely quiet? The applicants testified that the deceased had been a prominent Inkatha organiser and leader and businessperson who had previously lived in their area but who had left when he joined Inkatha. It was alleged that the deceased had led attacks on their community by Inkatha supporters and that such ... ... Midway or actually Soweto. We saw the activities taking place at the Midway explosion scene. I cannot recall precisely where we waited, but afterwards we told the people that we had information that there were a further two limpet mines at other points. We then went to assist Frans van Tonder ... According to the evidence of the applicant, on the 25th December 1993 his brother Gibson Ngubane and cousin Velephi Maluleke were killed in the Jobe area. The applicant says that he saw this happening. The people who killed his brother were a group which was led by Simon Zikali and Mmenezi ... I went to ANC offices complaining that my son is not coming back. I asked the ANC office to look for him. They gave me another date to come back. I then came back. I met one man, but I do not remember his surname. His name was Galikie, Yoyong Galikie. He said that he was going to phone ... MR MAKANJEE: According to my instructions there were people at the scene at the time that the applicant and his colleagues burnt the property. They ran away after that and they are not sure of what transpired after that. They do know that the house was burnt down. The fifth applicant was a constable in the Venda Police Force at the time. He testified that he was called upon to participate in the interrogation of suspects. He and his colleagues were instructed that people who were against the government should be assaulted. He admitted that he ... |
