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people's warExplanation Showing 541 to 560 of 1003 First Page•Previous Page 24 •25 •26 •27 •28 •29 •30 •31 •32 Next Page•Last Page... knew the . He conceded that there might have been ill-treatment of Black people by a farmer or two, but stated categorically that he was not aware of it and that the deceased definitely did not ill-treat his ... MR VILAKAZI: That is correct because in one incident when we were at a night vigil for comrade Mati, these people who were in the company of Sgt Meyer arrived and attacked us. I do not know how they got ...(indistinct) to attack the MG funeral or not, so it was obvious at that time that they ... Van Dyk ordered him to conduct an interrogation of Mngomezulu. He did so, did not get any information except a few names of people that he did not know. He never assaulted Mngomezulu. He decided that continued interrogation would serve no purpose and that he had to be returned to ... ... had his way, the killing as well as the reasons therefore would have remained unknown. While a surviving victim of abduction would be able to warn other black people to stay out of the town, a dead one would obviously not be able to do so. This is a further indication that no political ... Graeme Simpson of the Centre for the Study of Violence and Reconciliation testified in support of the application. He confirmed that industrial relations had been politicised at this stage, and could not be viewed outside of the context of the political struggles of the time. At this particular ... the ANC and it was used as a safehouse. They travelled in 3 vehicles, parked outside with the headlights of the cars beaming on the house and ran towards the house. Shots were fired. 1st Applicant remembers that there was no-one in the house. 3rd Applicant's memory serves him that people ran ... ... I do know that I was not the only one that was badly injured. Two of the friends that I know personally, one guy had a heart attack straight afterwards, another lady is in hospital at present having a back operation, also I believe was caused by the blast as well, so I just felt that that does ... If it is misleading what I said, then I have to apologise, I really cannot remember that I specifically received instructions to be involved because of the fact that government might have thought it might be a good idea to attack on the 14th. The final date for the attack was in any event ... ADV SANDI: Just to get some clarity on this, Mr Vermeulen. Was it known to you that this operation was going to be about the attack and killing of people in Botswana? MR MBULI: I had no choice whatsoever. It was common knowledge and public knowledge that the said people with such behaviour and habits should be killed because they were terrorising the community together with his gang, Khumalo gang that is. From 1959 Pondo people became violent because of what I am going to say. I was unemployed at the time, I didn't have money, I didn't know what to do. Then I went to the ANC people to tell my position and these are the people who helped me MR JACKSON: I tried to run away at the time of the shooting and I could see people behind me falling in great numbers. I tried to run, but I just couldn't. Then I decided to check on my body and my foot, and I could feel that there was something wrong with my foot. My knee was twisted and some ... After he was discharged from hospital, he was working for Mita, but he was having fits. Then when I asked him what had actually happened, he said they saw a group of people as they were patrolling, and these people were toyi- toying and they just heard gunshots and one fell and the others jumped ... MR JOUBERT: Mr More has testified, and you also set this out in your application, at that house you had, or some of the people had beer to drink, is that correct? The applicant did not know who the people were in the kitchen when he threw the grenade. We accept his evidence that he, at the time he threw the grenade, believed that they had come to the house to get him solely because he was a member of MK recently returned from exile. These commanders did not specify their individual names as they are accepting collective responsibility for any act, omission, offence or delict committed by members of the PAC as a result of which people died, others were injured and property was damaged (paragraph 9(b) of the application form, ... MR DU PLESSIS: No, I was going to place that on record now Mr Chairman. May I just place on record for purposes of Mr Visser and Mr Wagener, that Brigadier Cronje's application which was bound into the Bundles, was his first set of applications, which were already heard during the previous ... ADV GCABASHE : Was it busy, were there people there or was it absolutely quiet? CHAIRPERSON: You know I'm just interested in this because in my culture the bones of somebody who has died in this nature is very important. It's very important for the family to know if this indeed happened, because this has already been to Pretorius and Mr Pretorius has refuted having been at ... |
