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people's warExplanation Showing 541 to 560 of 1003 First Page•Previous Page 24 •25 •26 •27 •28 •29 •30 •31 •32 Next Page•Last PageADV SANDI: Just to get some clarity on this, Mr Vermeulen. Was it known to you that this operation was going to be about the attack and killing of people in Botswana? MR MBULI: I had no choice whatsoever. It was common knowledge and public knowledge that the said people with such behaviour and habits should be killed because they were terrorising the community together with his gang, Khumalo gang that is. On a certain day the Applicant was told by Mjoli that there was a certain man in Umzimkulu who was causing UDF supporters serious problems. At that stage the name of the man was never mentioned and the Applicant was only told that he was a business man who opposed all initiatives by the UDF ... DR ALLY: I just want to welcome the following people who have joined us. Mr Bennie Boshilo, one of the traditional leaders in the area, Elias Nong, a member of parliament, of the traditional parliament here in the Northern Province representing the Traditional leaders. The applicant who is currently serving a long term of imprisonment for eight (8) counts of attempted murder and one count of arson was at all material times a member and cadre of the Azania People Liberation Army (APLA), the military wing of the Pan Africanist Congress of Azania (PAC), having ... Applicant had no personal knowledge that the deceased was an IFP supporter but this was conveyed to him by his commander Sam Makhobo who had instructed him to attack the entire household of the deceased because it was clear that there were some moles in the area and the deceased was taken to be one ... CHAIRPERSON: We certainly have the power to call him because we wish to make sure, to allow him to be subjected to cross-examination before we accept his version. You must agree, I think, that it would be unfair that other people have been cross-examined, to have one witness whose evidence is ... On a certain day in 1986, Pretorius continues his evidence, he was called by Jubber into his office. He told him that that evening he was to report in Pretoria to the NTVL Security Branch parking area where he would be met by Lieutenant Jacques Hechter. He told him not to tell any person ... We may mentioned of course that when we saw the application itself, that is the application for the amnesty, it refers to murders etcetera, etcetera, but we were are told that the whole thing, the whole truth and all the circumstances surrounding the death of those people, would in fact be ... ADV MPSHE: Because other people don't believe in communism? MR MADURAI: Yes, the court closes at four o'clock on a Friday and there weren't any people around so - and the point that was chosen was where there were no pedestrian traffic at all. The side of the court, so therefore at that time and place, I mean that particular place of the court was chosen. MR KOEKEMOER: I don't know who exactly went to fetch Mr Bambo. The person who signed for him, it's not clear on the form, but I do believe it was one of W/O Grobler's people and I do not know whether W/O Grobler was with. People followed, the comrades followed him and we, he, they asked him whether he did not know whether there was a consumer boycott or not. They told him to leave the truck and the truck was bunt down by the community. MR KNIGHT: Thank you Mr Chairman. With regard to Mr Mfalapitsa, Mr Chairman, there appears to be a breakdown in communication in obtain his instructions as well as to having him here today. Arrangements were made at the inception of this hearing for him to be present today and there were interim ... MR BOSCH: It may be mistaken that he was involved in the incident that would be heard tomorrow or the day after, but I know there were other people. MR JOUBERT : Can you recall whether there were any other people present or not? political meetings, bearing in mind that the incident took place in 1992, long after the unbanning of political parties. All the evidence pointed towards the probability that this was a criminal offence for personal ... Incidentally who in the Army is deciding that, are they MK people or SADF people? CHAIRPERSON: Because it has become obvious during the few days we have been here that there are difficulties in conducting hearings here in Durban where the incident took place, in the North or South Coast and where the people live there. MR HOBOYI: The people who attacked us, we didn't know where they were coming from. We were asleep, it was me and the other twins were staying next door to us. The house was a newly-built house, it didn't have burglar proofing. Outside I heard gunshots. I was dreaming of people |