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people's warExplanation Showing 541 to 560 of 1003 First Page•Previous Page 24 •25 •26 •27 •28 •29 •30 •31 •32 Next Page•Last PageMR LEWIN: Also in your statement Ma Motloung, you mentioned some specific names who people who Lindiwe said she saw actually shooting him. Was there ever a case made against them ? Any charge brought against them ? MR MANDLAZI: Sizwe would not have been beaten had he not been aggressive towards the questions that we were asking him about with regards to the arrest of Thandi Modise because to us it was just unbelievable that a person could work with a person inside the country, be involved in the ferrying of ... MR SHANDU: You would not know about young people back from the independence days. He said that is not independence day. I saw the South African flag and the flag of Bophuthatswana because independence, when there is freedom, you will see all the flags of many countries. So that is not ... MR MZINZI: I was shot at the same time with the other people. We were just approaching section 16. I was in the third row in that procession and what actually happened I saw Kwanele at the time he was falling and then when I was turning to run away I also saw myself falling down. Whilst I was ... ADV MPSHE: Now, were you told by your commanders or people who gave you the order as to what his death would do to the organisation or to the community? Another issue which was raised by Adv. Mpshe in argument, was whether the application for amnesty should not be refused on the ground that the applicant and his victim, in count 1, were both members of the PAC and APLA, that is the victims was not a political enemy. Evidence submitted before the ... According to his testimony, the Applicant and his comrades Denis Moeti and Abram Zweli together with their commander, Moss Mothopo, aslo known as Ramapapa, left Alexandra for Springs, on the day of the incident. Moeti could not be traced and Zweli who is in prison did not attend the hearing. ... Our investigators spoke to Archie Alchaster who was with the victim when he was shot. It was September 1976 and the witness states that he was one of five people travelling in a car with the victim - that’s Pieter Afrika on the day of the killing. Fourie testified that he was a member of the Piet Retief Security Police under the command of W/O Frank Pienaar. He states that in the building they encountered about two (2) women and two (2) black youths. He ordered them to remain silent. They were never assaulted or abused by anyone of them. ... MR BRINK: He was in the security van when the van was ambushed by a number of these people and he was killed. MR BORAINE: Chairperson, for one reason or another we've had to change the order a little bit, so I hope the witnesses aren't becoming confused, everybody will be heard, but we are just trying to accommodate different people's needs. MR NEMANE: Mr Chairman, one must bear in mind that these are relatively unsophisticated people doing things on their own. After this incident, all of the ANC members, including the two applicants, left Gengeshe to stay at Ndaleni an ANC stronghold situated on the outskirts of Richmond. Their homes, which were abandoned, were burnt down. According to the police docket 30 homes were destroyed. Subsequent attempts to ... MR SIBANYONI: In fact what I am trying to find out, were all these people MK people including this woman? MRS NHLAYISI: He mentioned an incident relating to kidnapping one Qobani and taking him to Polla Park and in his testimony he mentioned that you were one of the people who participated in this incident. Do you confirm that? MR NDUKU: The people were singing freedom songs, the Police. political meetings, bearing in mind that the incident took place in 1992, long after the unbanning of political parties. All the evidence pointed towards the probability that this was a criminal offence for personal ... What transpired at the border fence site was that the Applicants and others who were present there, saw four people passing them carrying bags on the way in to South Africa. They then waited for the guide and whoever else might return to Swaziland. After hearing the vehicle drive away they ... MR POTGIETER: Thank you, you may be seated. Welcome to George as well. Mr Lizo, your evidence relates to two incidents. The first one concerns an incident which happened between 1986 and 1987 where you were arrested and tortured by the police, and the second incident relates to August 1993 when ... MR JOUBERT : Can you recall whether there were any other people present or not? |
