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people's warExplanation Showing 561 to 580 of 1003 First Page•Previous Page 25 •26 •27 •28 •29 •30 •31 •32 •33 Next Page•Last PageMR MZINZI: I was shot at the same time with the other people. We were just approaching section 16. I was in the third row in that procession and what actually happened I saw Kwanele at the time he was falling and then when I was turning to run away I also saw myself falling down. Whilst I was ... Yes sir, it is as the previous speaker said according to the time and everything where the Captain issued the - the order for them to shoot and hardly 5 minutes thereafter they started shooting. And I went to hide at the walls and moved that way but before the people started dispersing I walked ... MR MTHALANE: With regards to Mr Mkunu, it was Mr Kuswaya who showed me that there were ANC members, and he also showed me the area that that was an ANC area. It was usual that there would be political conflict in the area, instances such as exchange of fire. On that day, the 27th, we had been ... MR MAKOMA: It is not a normal thing to do, to know the people with their names. If you are told that these comrades are members of PAC, that should satisfy you. I was not interested in knowing their names. CHAIRPERSON: Thank you Reverend for starting our day for us by a prayer. We welcome people who are going to appear before the Commission to-day on our last day in Kingwilliam’s Town. We will ask Ms Maya to give us the order of the day. Thank you Mr Chairperson. MR DOS SANTOS: Yes, we always had Pentolite and other forms of explosives that we used for destroying things. We would also have explosives which had been picked up by people on their property. We had many sorts of explosives which we would make use of. B MBALO: Yes, I can explain. In 1993 the COSAS asked that students should go and march in town. Then on Friday there is a river in our town, on a Friday there were many policemen beyond the river stopping people not to go to town until twelve o'clock when the school children would be taking ... The present Applicants, save for Brigadier Schoon, are the people who participated in the attack on the house used by Nyanda as a transit house in Mbabane, when Nyanda and McFadden wwas killed. Their evidence as to the motive for the attack and the details relating thereto agreed with those of ... Apart of the process of healing in our land we hear the stories of what took place and the chief aim is reconciliation - ons soek na die waarheid. We are searching for the truth - in what we want is actually healing and reconciliation in our land and we appreciate the fact that so many people are ... MRS TONISI: We would hear from people in the township that they were in these different places. We did not receive any letters from him and he never phoned us. Applicant indicated that in the turbulent political mood that prevailed at the time, white people were regarded as the political enemy and were generally accepted as targets for attack by political activists. The attack upon the deceased was not planned but as Applicant indicated, they were only ... Fourie testified that he was a member of the Piet Retief Security Police under the command of W/O Frank Pienaar. He states that in the building they encountered about two (2) women and two (2) black youths. He ordered them to remain silent. They were never assaulted or abused by anyone of them. ... MR SIBANYONI: In fact what I am trying to find out, were all these people MK people including this woman? MR LEWIN: Also in your statement Ma Motloung, you mentioned some specific names who people who Lindiwe said she saw actually shooting him. Was there ever a case made against them ? Any charge brought against them ? MR NAUDE: C2 was not personally involved with the handling of informants, but to a greater degree, we did recruitments. We infiltrated members of the freedom movements and we interrogated people in detention concerning the training and the facilities of the organisations outside of South Africa. Everybody who was to participate in the operation was then briefed and given instructions. Those from Vlakplaas who participated were the 1st, 2nd, 7th, 10th and 14th applicants. From Piet Retief were participating the 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th applicants. They took up positions for the ... The office was crowded by people. Then they asked me, are you the wife of the sell-out? I was pregnant at the time, the pregnancy was eight months. At that time in Barkley West - Barkley West was quiet and people were not yet aware of what was happening. And sometimes I would get advice from my friends at Kimberley. They were only giving me advice on political matters and when I was at Barkley I realised that many parents at that time ... ... from that Casspir and when we watched we wanted to see which direction were they going to take these people and they were coming in our direction towards Chicken Farm. They split into groups and went different directions and they entered the squatter camps and that is when we whistled for alert ... could not see well because both lights were off. We could not see whether it was black people or white people. They left then. A short while afterwards we heard various gunshots, one after the other and I said there was a shooting somewhere, let us go to bed but Beulin still had not returned. ... |
