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people's warExplanation Showing 561 to 580 of 1003 First Page•Previous Page 25 •26 •27 •28 •29 •30 •31 •32 •33 Next Page•Last PageADV GCABASHE : Was it busy, were there people there or was it absolutely quiet? MR DU PLESSIS: No, I was going to place that on record now Mr Chairman. May I just place on record for purposes of Mr Visser and Mr Wagener, that Brigadier Cronje's application which was bound into the Bundles, was his first set of applications, which were already heard during the previous ... The Applicant described a situation of ongoing political conflict between members of the PAC and members of the African National Congress ("ANC"). He related a number of incidents in which people were killed, homes burnt and people forced to leave the township. On the day of the attack the Applicant was asleep. Three people came to him. They were Sipho Nkwanyana, Nhlanhla Mcellak and Sicelinhlanh'a Cele. He woke up ad joined about thirty others. He told the group that they should go to Mr Chonco's house and that no one should be allowed to come out, ... MR KNIGHT: Thank you Mr Chairman. With regard to Mr Mfalapitsa, Mr Chairman, there appears to be a breakdown in communication in obtain his instructions as well as to having him here today. Arrangements were made at the inception of this hearing for him to be present today and there were interim ... He testified that Congress Mtsweni introduced him to two persons called Mike and James. Mike and James, who were in fact Joe Mamasela and the 2nd Applicant respectively, had asked Congress to introduce them to Mr Mazibuko and John Mlangeni, as they were wanting to establish units to defend the ... ... as aforesaid were in line with the policies and activities of the PAC and APLA and were aimed at making white people and the Government of the day aware of the urgent need for political change. We are further satisfied that the actions of the applicants occurred during the conflicts of the past ... Incidentally who in the Army is deciding that, are they MK people or SADF people? CHAIRPERSON: Because it has become obvious during the few days we have been here that there are difficulties in conducting hearings here in Durban where the incident took place, in the North or South Coast and where the people live there. The applicant did not know who the people were in the kitchen when he threw the grenade. We accept his evidence that he, at the time he threw the grenade, believed that they had come to the house to get him solely because he was a member of MK recently returned from exile. These commanders did not specify their individual names as they are accepting collective responsibility for any act, omission, offence or delict committed by members of the PAC as a result of which people died, others were injured and property was damaged (paragraph 9(b) of the application form, ... Once at Umgababa he, his co-Applicants and other people from his area joined some sort of self-defence units and engaged in training with firearms and other weapons. They were involved in a number of attacks and incidents of political violence against neighbouring areas that were prevalent at the ... CHAIRPERSON: You know I'm just interested in this because in my culture the bones of somebody who has died in this nature is very important. It's very important for the family to know if this indeed happened, because this has already been to Pretorius and Mr Pretorius has refuted having been at ... It was submitted by Mr Matjele who appeared on behalf of the widow of the deceased, that the applicant had not made a full disclosure, because he did not disclose the identity or names of the people who had joined him in the attack on the deceased. You give a very long answer, but in the third paragraph you say in other words, we had to obtain this information for the people who possessed that information, and whether it was from Gen Moller or whether it was from his Intelligence Staff, I can't confirm one hundred percent. But the ... People followed, the comrades followed him and we, he, they asked him whether he did not know whether there was a consumer boycott or not. They told him to leave the truck and the truck was bunt down by the community. I did not explain what happened to him, because I was not sure. His aunt thanked me. I then stayed at home. At night while I was sleeping his family members came from Cradock. They said that they heard that there were Comrades who were killed. I was not sure whether Makhaya was one of these ... During December 1989 a watershed meeting was called by the UDF in Kabusi township. This meeting was attended by high-profiled UDF and local leaders. The meeting was held in the Matomela church hall in the township. The hall was unable to accommodate the masses who had turned up for the meeting. ... MR DOS SANTOS: Yes, we always had Pentolite and other forms of explosives that we used for destroying things. We would also have explosives which had been picked up by people on their property. We had many sorts of explosives which we would make use of. ... hearing now, and this letter indicated that they never received any notice and the one documentation. Now on the strength of him not having been aware of the notice service at the AW offices, the documents were then sent to them last week Friday, couriered, because, Mr Chairman, we don't serve ... |
