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people's warExplanation Showing 561 to 580 of 1003 First Page•Previous Page 25 •26 •27 •28 •29 •30 •31 •32 •33 Next Page•Last PageADV MPSHE: Because other people don't believe in communism? MR MBEKWA: The people who worked together with the Government they destroyed his livestock. They poisoned his cattle. MR MADURAI: Yes, the court closes at four o'clock on a Friday and there weren't any people around so - and the point that was chosen was where there were no pedestrian traffic at all. The side of the court, so therefore at that time and place, I mean that particular place of the court was chosen. MRS TLOU: No, it didn't, because the police came to us the previous night and then they told us that usually we Black people we do this thing called Melindela. So they told us that we must not do that. They are not going to allowing that. At an early stage, Chairperson, when the amnesty process started, Mr Kasrils together with other leading ANC members, that is members of the National Executive Committee, they all completed application forms which were to a certain extent, applications for amnesty for these leaders who were taking ... All the Applicants testified that they then noticed a group of people at the Tavern with Selai who had been captured and was being interrogated and assaulted for having assisted the IFP in terrorising the community. The fourth Applicant stabbed Selai on his hand with a knife. The second Applicant ... MRS BALOYI: In 1986 on the 11th it was at about one o' clock when I came back from work I sat in the house. Whilst there it was time to go to sleep. Whilst I was sleeping my husband came in and said to me it seems as if the police are bombing are houses nowadays ... I saw some fire and the house ... MR VISSER: Did you aim specifically at persons or did you aim at the vehicle, at places where you would have expected to find people seated? MR KOEKEMOER: I don't know who exactly went to fetch Mr Bambo. The person who signed for him, it's not clear on the form, but I do believe it was one of W/O Grobler's people and I do not know whether W/O Grobler was with. We may mentioned of course that when we saw the application itself, that is the application for the amnesty, it refers to murders etcetera, etcetera, but we were are told that the whole thing, the whole truth and all the circumstances surrounding the death of those people, would in fact be ... On a certain day in 1986, Pretorius continues his evidence, he was called by Jubber into his office. He told him that that evening he was to report in Pretoria to the NTVL Security Branch parking area where he would be met by Lieutenant Jacques Hechter. He told him not to tell any person ... the ANC and it was used as a safehouse. They travelled in 3 vehicles, parked outside with the headlights of the cars beaming on the house and ran towards the house. Shots were fired. 1st Applicant remembers that there was no-one in the house. 3rd Applicant's memory serves him that people ran ... MR VISSER: Madam Chair, may I move for an amendment? Chairperson, you might recall that on many occasions in the past, we have explained how it came about, it is really a mistaken reading of the questions, which gave rise to a whole hoard of people saying "not applicable" where in fact they were ... MRS MBONANI: Thomas Mnguni left in the morning going to work. He never came back on that day, on the 19th. We phoned many places, different places that we knew he could be in touch with those people. Even the taxi rank we went to enquire about him. He was not seen and on Monday still he was not ... REV FINCA: Mrs Tonisi, Mr Gobizembe and Thembakazi Tuku you’ve given us very painful and a difficult task with the regard to the disappearance of the people who were tortured those who were in exile under the ANC. I would like to add that there are also other incidents mentioned about the ... And we are aware of the fact that it was a time when there was a great deal of conflict in Mossel Bay and other people were killed and injured on that day too. Please tell us about what happened to your husband. Mrs Gretina Ninela, the mother of the deceased, testified as to her son's background and activities. She described his employment history, detention for trade union activities and what she knew of his disappearance. Apart from indicating her distrust of the Applicants' evidence she could not take ... MR VISSER: And then in paragraph 16 and further that the acts and omissions committed by you were done in the execution of your official duties as you see it and as part of your opposition to the struggle and that it was aimed at the supporters of a liberation movement. And what you had done you ... MS SOOKA: Were there other people who were shot in the same incident, by the same man? MRS NKENKE: Yes, there was going to be a prayer meeting concerning the people that were shot in 1983. |
