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people's warExplanation Showing 561 to 580 of 1003 First Page•Previous Page 25 •26 •27 •28 •29 •30 •31 •32 •33 Next Page•Last PageCHAIRPERSON: Because it has become obvious during the few days we have been here that there are difficulties in conducting hearings here in Durban where the incident took place, in the North or South Coast and where the people live there. Incidentally who in the Army is deciding that, are they MK people or SADF people? What transpired at the border fence site was that the Applicants and others who were present there, saw four people passing them carrying bags on the way in to South Africa. They then waited for the guide and whoever else might return to Swaziland. After hearing the vehicle drive away they ... MR NIEMAN: When you gave that instruction to him, to as you call it in your statement, to give Scheepers Morudi a fright, did you foresee that during a bomb attack on this house, people in this house could be injured or killed? REV XUNDU: Here in your statement you mentioned that there were some people there in this car who had balaclavers do you perhaps know who these people were, or were they members of an organisation? MR MAKANJEE: According to my instructions there were people at the scene at the time that the applicant and his colleagues burnt the property. They ran away after that and they are not sure of what transpired after that. They do know that the house was burnt down. MR DE KOCK: Chairperson, when one compiles such a parcel usually, as it was in the struggle of the past, our objective was to kill someone, we didn't go out to injure people, at least not we who worked at Vlakplaas and certainly not the Commandant. What I do know is that the person who was supposed ... ... We find this aspect highly improbable. Ndinisani concedes that he saw the children sitting around a fire in the yard and claims to have fired a warning shot so as to avoid shooting innocent people. His subsequent shooting of the women who he conceded had nothing to do with the attacks, thus ... The fifth applicant was a constable in the Venda Police Force at the time. He testified that he was called upon to participate in the interrogation of suspects. He and his colleagues were instructed that people who were against the government should be assaulted. He admitted that he ... I went to ANC offices complaining that my son is not coming back. I asked the ANC office to look for him. They gave me another date to come back. I then came back. I met one man, but I do not remember his surname. His name was Galikie, Yoyong Galikie. He said that he was going to phone ... So why was Jama killed? The evidence leads us to the conclusion that Jama had been beaten up so badly that the applicants would never have been able to justify it to their superior. And this was the reason for subsequently killing him. After killing him, they set about destroying any evidence ... Nobody was killed in the bombings. however, a number of people were injured, including Mrs M Bayo, Seipata Mokadatlo (both at Wesselsbron), Stephen Semelo, Andries Semelo, Mrs Ramorakane and Margaret Malinga (all at Viljoenskroon). [Indistinct] ... to get the situation clear in my mind, on the day when you were shot what was the situation in Paballelo? Was there unrest? Was there police activity?--- There was unrest during that time. As you know, every year on the 15th June arrangements are made for the commemoration on ... Once at Umgababa he, his co-Applicants and other people from his area joined some sort of self-defence units and engaged in training with firearms and other weapons. They were involved in a number of attacks and incidents of political violence against neighbouring areas that were prevalent at the ... It was submitted by Mr Matjele who appeared on behalf of the widow of the deceased, that the applicant had not made a full disclosure, because he did not disclose the identity or names of the people who had joined him in the attack on the deceased. CHAIRPERSON: You know I'm just interested in this because in my culture the bones of somebody who has died in this nature is very important. It's very important for the family to know if this indeed happened, because this has already been to Pretorius and Mr Pretorius has refuted having been at ... The next day on 27 August 1993, the two of them attacked the bus at approximately midnight. Each fired a magazine at the bus. In total, approximately fifty shots were fired. They had intended shooting the driver so that the bus would crash off the bridge and into the river below. They fired at ... It is common cause that the applicant was a commander in the SDU which was formed in Meadowlands, Soweto, and the one formed at Merinohoek in Queenstown. He was a member of Umkhonto weSizwe (MK), the military wing of the African National Congress (ANC). Among others, his duties were to establish ... MR KNIGHT: Thank you Mr Chairman. With regard to Mr Mfalapitsa, Mr Chairman, there appears to be a breakdown in communication in obtain his instructions as well as to having him here today. Arrangements were made at the inception of this hearing for him to be present today and there were interim ... come back around three in the afternoon. We left. When we got back home in my shack I called my neighbour. She came. That was when I explained that Patricia had left us, she has died. People wept. It was heavy. I was also confused not knowing whether I am coming or going. Even today I am ... |
