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people's warExplanation Showing 561 to 580 of 1003 First Page•Previous Page 25 •26 •27 •28 •29 •30 •31 •32 •33 Next Page•Last PageMR VISSER: Madam Chair, may I move for an amendment? Chairperson, you might recall that on many occasions in the past, we have explained how it came about, it is really a mistaken reading of the questions, which gave rise to a whole hoard of people saying "not applicable" where in fact they were ... We may mentioned of course that when we saw the application itself, that is the application for the amnesty, it refers to murders etcetera, etcetera, but we were are told that the whole thing, the whole truth and all the circumstances surrounding the death of those people, would in fact be ... On a certain day in 1986, Pretorius continues his evidence, he was called by Jubber into his office. He told him that that evening he was to report in Pretoria to the NTVL Security Branch parking area where he would be met by Lieutenant Jacques Hechter. He told him not to tell any person ... At an early stage, Chairperson, when the amnesty process started, Mr Kasrils together with other leading ANC members, that is members of the National Executive Committee, they all completed application forms which were to a certain extent, applications for amnesty for these leaders who were taking ... MR VISSER: Did you aim specifically at persons or did you aim at the vehicle, at places where you would have expected to find people seated? CHAIRPERSON: Were these two people injured in the cross-fire? MRS TLOU: No, it didn't, because the police came to us the previous night and then they told us that usually we Black people we do this thing called Melindela. So they told us that we must not do that. They are not going to allowing that. MRS BALOYI: In 1986 on the 11th it was at about one o' clock when I came back from work I sat in the house. Whilst there it was time to go to sleep. Whilst I was sleeping my husband came in and said to me it seems as if the police are bombing are houses nowadays ... I saw some fire and the house ... The applicant who is currently serving a long term of imprisonment for eight (8) counts of attempted murder and one count of arson was at all material times a member and cadre of the Azania People Liberation Army (APLA), the military wing of the Pan Africanist Congress of Azania (PAC), having ... Applicant had no personal knowledge that the deceased was an IFP supporter but this was conveyed to him by his commander Sam Makhobo who had instructed him to attack the entire household of the deceased because it was clear that there were some moles in the area and the deceased was taken to be one ... CHAIRPERSON: We certainly have the power to call him because we wish to make sure, to allow him to be subjected to cross-examination before we accept his version. You must agree, I think, that it would be unfair that other people have been cross-examined, to have one witness whose evidence is ... MRS MISHOMBO: We were residing in Meletsani township in Johannesburg in Johannesburg and on this day, the 29th, he left to go and look for his mother and her grandchildren, because soldiers, Government soldiers, would detain children. Gadja's soldiers were detaining people and late that night an ... ADV MPSHE: Because other people don't believe in communism? Van Dyk ordered him to conduct an interrogation of Mngomezulu. He did so, did not get any information except a few names of people that he did not know. He never assaulted Mngomezulu. He decided that continued interrogation would serve no purpose and that he had to be returned to ... Pursuant to this decision, Applicant and a number of other ANC Youth League members proceeded to the Dysselsdorp police station on 22 June 1991 where they occupied the premises. At one stage three policemen were present at the police station, but two of them managed to escape leaving Mr Tarentaal ... ... knew the . He conceded that there might have been ill-treatment of Black people by a farmer or two, but stated categorically that he was not aware of it and that the deceased definitely did not ill-treat his ... MR VILAKAZI: That is correct because in one incident when we were at a night vigil for comrade Mati, these people who were in the company of Sgt Meyer arrived and attacked us. I do not know how they got ...(indistinct) to attack the MG funeral or not, so it was obvious at that time that they ... And we are aware of the fact that it was a time when there was a great deal of conflict in Mossel Bay and other people were killed and injured on that day too. Please tell us about what happened to your husband. MR MATJENI: I'm not able to state anything in regard to the photo album because it was used in various operations, it was shown to many people. But I don't remember in this particular instance whether the album was used. MR VISSER: But you knew that the objective would be to attempt to kill if possible, these people? |