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people's warExplanation Showing 561 to 580 of 1003 First Page•Previous Page 25 •26 •27 •28 •29 •30 •31 •32 •33 Next Page•Last PageMR RAMPOMANE: we were at Lobatsi. We went there because Monde wanted to show us the house, that is after they have killed our people in Gaberone. On our way from Lobatsi, Monde asked us, he said he wanted to urinate. We agreed. We stopped the car and after that - I was sitting with him at the ... ... He therefore regarded them, especially the third applicant, as legitimate political targets. (His evidence does of course also go a long way towards indicating that the first and third applicants acted with a political objective). The second applicant's act is therefore an act associated ... It is common cause that the applicant was a commander in the SDU which was formed in Meadowlands, Soweto, and the one formed at Merinohoek in Queenstown. He was a member of Umkhonto weSizwe (MK), the military wing of the African National Congress (ANC). Among others, his duties were to establish ... It was submitted by Mr Matjele who appeared on behalf of the widow of the deceased, that the applicant had not made a full disclosure, because he did not disclose the identity or names of the people who had joined him in the attack on the deceased. After he was discharged from hospital, he was working for Mita, but he was having fits. Then when I asked him what had actually happened, he said they saw a group of people as they were patrolling, and these people were toyi- toying and they just heard gunshots and one fell and the others jumped ... MR JOUBERT: Mr More has testified, and you also set this out in your application, at that house you had, or some of the people had beer to drink, is that correct? Good before I ask you to tell us a little bit about yourself and then also to tell us about your daughter, I would like to just read some of the context statement that has been prepared by your research team so that we understand what the context was and - at the time of your daughter's shooting. ... MR DU PLESSIS: No, I was going to place that on record now Mr Chairman. May I just place on record for purposes of Mr Visser and Mr Wagener, that Brigadier Cronje's application which was bound into the Bundles, was his first set of applications, which were already heard during the previous ... ADV GCABASHE : Was it busy, were there people there or was it absolutely quiet? CHAIRPERSON: You know I'm just interested in this because in my culture the bones of somebody who has died in this nature is very important. It's very important for the family to know if this indeed happened, because this has already been to Pretorius and Mr Pretorius has refuted having been at ... Gandlanani Village is situated in an undeveloped rural area where residents followed a tradition way of life. Like in many other similar communities, the residents of the village held a deep seated belief in witchcraft. The Applicants were no exception. They similarly believed in the ... CHAIRPERSON: And so you went, it is recorded as you're saying - "She then went to the shebeen. After about 10 minutes I followed her. I went there to call her. She came and said there aren't any people there". People followed, the comrades followed him and we, he, they asked him whether he did not know whether there was a consumer boycott or not. They told him to leave the truck and the truck was bunt down by the community. You give a very long answer, but in the third paragraph you say in other words, we had to obtain this information for the people who possessed that information, and whether it was from Gen Moller or whether it was from his Intelligence Staff, I can't confirm one hundred percent. But the ... MRS TLOU: No, it didn't, because the police came to us the previous night and then they told us that usually we Black people we do this thing called Melindela. So they told us that we must not do that. They are not going to allowing that. At an early stage, Chairperson, when the amnesty process started, Mr Kasrils together with other leading ANC members, that is members of the National Executive Committee, they all completed application forms which were to a certain extent, applications for amnesty for these leaders who were taking ... I was unemployed at the time, I didn't have money, I didn't know what to do. Then I went to the ANC people to tell my position and these are the people who helped me MRS BALOYI: In 1986 on the 11th it was at about one o' clock when I came back from work I sat in the house. Whilst there it was time to go to sleep. Whilst I was sleeping my husband came in and said to me it seems as if the police are bombing are houses nowadays ... I saw some fire and the house ... MR VISSER: Did you aim specifically at persons or did you aim at the vehicle, at places where you would have expected to find people seated? We may mentioned of course that when we saw the application itself, that is the application for the amnesty, it refers to murders etcetera, etcetera, but we were are told that the whole thing, the whole truth and all the circumstances surrounding the death of those people, would in fact be ... |
