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people's warExplanation Showing 561 to 580 of 1003 First Page•Previous Page 25 •26 •27 •28 •29 •30 •31 •32 •33 Next Page•Last PageIncidentally who in the Army is deciding that, are they MK people or SADF people? MR BOSCH: It may be mistaken that he was involved in the incident that would be heard tomorrow or the day after, but I know there were other people. MR NIEMAN: When you gave that instruction to him, to as you call it in your statement, to give Scheepers Morudi a fright, did you foresee that during a bomb attack on this house, people in this house could be injured or killed? So why was Jama killed? The evidence leads us to the conclusion that Jama had been beaten up so badly that the applicants would never have been able to justify it to their superior. And this was the reason for subsequently killing him. After killing him, they set about destroying any evidence ... But in another way - it could be, because you hear, that all though he was killed in this gruesome way, for the people of the community - he died as a hero. And so as his daughter, you can gain encouragement from the knowledge that you have a father who paid this very heavy price, but gave his ... REV XUNDU: Here in your statement you mentioned that there were some people there in this car who had balaclavers do you perhaps know who these people were, or were they members of an organisation? ... We find this aspect highly improbable. Ndinisani concedes that he saw the children sitting around a fire in the yard and claims to have fired a warning shot so as to avoid shooting innocent people. His subsequent shooting of the women who he conceded had nothing to do with the attacks, thus ... The fifth applicant was a constable in the Venda Police Force at the time. He testified that he was called upon to participate in the interrogation of suspects. He and his colleagues were instructed that people who were against the government should be assaulted. He admitted that he ... Nobody was killed in the bombings. however, a number of people were injured, including Mrs M Bayo, Seipata Mokadatlo (both at Wesselsbron), Stephen Semelo, Andries Semelo, Mrs Ramorakane and Margaret Malinga (all at Viljoenskroon). CHAIRPERSON: Because it has become obvious during the few days we have been here that there are difficulties in conducting hearings here in Durban where the incident took place, in the North or South Coast and where the people live there. MR NEL: Did you know at all when you went to Khanya House that there were people in the building? The applicant did not know who the people were in the kitchen when he threw the grenade. We accept his evidence that he, at the time he threw the grenade, believed that they had come to the house to get him solely because he was a member of MK recently returned from exile. These commanders did not specify their individual names as they are accepting collective responsibility for any act, omission, offence or delict committed by members of the PAC as a result of which people died, others were injured and property was damaged (paragraph 9(b) of the application form, ... On the day of the attack the Applicant was asleep. Three people came to him. They were Sipho Nkwanyana, Nhlanhla Mcellak and Sicelinhlanh'a Cele. He woke up ad joined about thirty others. He told the group that they should go to Mr Chonco's house and that no one should be allowed to come out, ... The Applicant described a situation of ongoing political conflict between members of the PAC and members of the African National Congress ("ANC"). He related a number of incidents in which people were killed, homes burnt and people forced to leave the township. After he was discharged from hospital, he was working for Mita, but he was having fits. Then when I asked him what had actually happened, he said they saw a group of people as they were patrolling, and these people were toyi- toying and they just heard gunshots and one fell and the others jumped ... MR SIBEKO: Will I be correct to say that in both incidents you were carrying and AK47 which you used to shoot against the people you were fighting with? Once at Umgababa he, his co-Applicants and other people from his area joined some sort of self-defence units and engaged in training with firearms and other weapons. They were involved in a number of attacks and incidents of political violence against neighbouring areas that were prevalent at the ... [Indistinct] ... to get the situation clear in my mind, on the day when you were shot what was the situation in Paballelo? Was there unrest? Was there police activity?--- There was unrest during that time. As you know, every year on the 15th June arrangements are made for the commemoration on ... MR HUGO: Mr Chairman, we submit that our argument would be the same. What was actually more enlightening was when Mr de Kock said that if the problems with the protection of sensitive information, that they actually went so far as to kill people to protect those sensitive information and details ... |
