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people's warExplanation Showing 581 to 600 of 1003 First Page•Previous Page 26 •27 •28 •29 •30 •31 •32 •33 •34 Next Page•Last PageAccording to his testimony, the Applicant and his comrades Denis Moeti and Abram Zweli together with their commander, Moss Mothopo, aslo known as Ramapapa, left Alexandra for Springs, on the day of the incident. Moeti could not be traced and Zweli who is in prison did not attend the hearing. ... Another issue which was raised by Adv. Mpshe in argument, was whether the application for amnesty should not be refused on the ground that the applicant and his victim, in count 1, were both members of the PAC and APLA, that is the victims was not a political enemy. Evidence submitted before the ... ADV MPSHE: Now, were you told by your commanders or people who gave you the order as to what his death would do to the organisation or to the community? MR KHOTLE: We are people of flesh and blood, we should be able to have food and have guns so that we would be able to continue with the struggle. CHAIRMAN: I just want to ask you a question. Were there any endeavours to report the Government, because your people came back from detention in ill-health. I do not know whether you understand me well? MR MATJENI: I'm not able to state anything in regard to the photo album because it was used in various operations, it was shown to many people. But I don't remember in this particular instance whether the album was used. MR VISSER: But you knew that the objective would be to attempt to kill if possible, these people? CHAIRPERSON: That, if that could be done, we certainly would appreciate it because setting up a hearing like this is not an easy task. People have come from afar, at a cost and obviously we've also got an interest to get through our long list of hearings. We would very much as a panel, appreciate ... ... knew the . He conceded that there might have been ill-treatment of Black people by a farmer or two, but stated categorically that he was not aware of it and that the deceased definitely did not ill-treat his ... ... in line with the APLA policy of attacking white homes and "repossess" weapons for use by APLA. He could not corroborate Duma that the money was forwarded to their Head Quarters in the Transkei which were administered by one "Mbulelo Dlamini", but he assumes that the money was received by Dlamini ... The Committee recommends that the injured people listed in Annexure "A" hereto be referred for consideration as victims in terms of Section 22 of the Act. CHAIRPERSON: I greet you Ms Solomon. Thank you for your patience and tolerance but, you knew that your turn would ultimately come. In your statement you have referred to the fact that your husband, Nicholas Pakamile Solomon was one of the people who were shot dead on this day in question, is that ... Then a Hippo arrived. There were police, white policemen. They asked me if I knew Abraham was dead in KwaNdebele. They said we do not want more than 50 people at the funeral. I went to KwaNdebele. I could not find corpses at the Government Mortuary. Where I found them I could not see ... Van Dyk ordered him to conduct an interrogation of Mngomezulu. He did so, did not get any information except a few names of people that he did not know. He never assaulted Mngomezulu. He decided that continued interrogation would serve no purpose and that he had to be returned to ... MS MTANGA: You mentioned that your Commander was Thebogo. Were there other people who were members of the unit and if so, what were their names? MR VILAKAZI: That is correct because in one incident when we were at a night vigil for comrade Mati, these people who were in the company of Sgt Meyer arrived and attacked us. I do not know how they got ...(indistinct) to attack the MG funeral or not, so it was obvious at that time that they ... MRS NKENKE: Yes, there was going to be a prayer meeting concerning the people that were shot in 1983. MS SOOKA: Were there other people who were shot in the same incident, by the same man? Ms Mjada and Ms Ntsizakalo I think every mother who heard you speaking today ill be able to sympathise with you. We all hope that our sons will grow up healthy and strong and able to lead productive lives. And we can really understand your anxiety about them now about their future. You’ve shown ... DR BORAINE: Welcome Mr Meyer. My first word to you must be one of apology. You may have made other arrangements for this afternoon thinking you would be heard before lunch. I am sorry we can try and move but we don't want to do it to the detriment of people who are giving witness, so forgive us ... |
