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people's warExplanation Showing 581 to 600 of 1003 First Page•Previous Page 26 •27 •28 •29 •30 •31 •32 •33 •34 Next Page•Last PageCHAIRPERSON: That, if that could be done, we certainly would appreciate it because setting up a hearing like this is not an easy task. People have come from afar, at a cost and obviously we've also got an interest to get through our long list of hearings. We would very much as a panel, appreciate ... ... from that Casspir and when we watched we wanted to see which direction were they going to take these people and they were coming in our direction towards Chicken Farm. They split into groups and went different directions and they entered the squatter camps and that is when we whistled for alert ... MRS NHLAYISI: He mentioned an incident relating to kidnapping one Qobani and taking him to Polla Park and in his testimony he mentioned that you were one of the people who participated in this incident. Do you confirm that? MR GOOSEN: Chairperson, as indicated, I remained in the vehicle. I simply heard the sound of the explosion, so I'm unaware which target was targeted during the explosion and whether or not people were injured. MR DE KOCK: Chairperson, when one compiles such a parcel usually, as it was in the struggle of the past, our objective was to kill someone, we didn't go out to injure people, at least not we who worked at Vlakplaas and certainly not the Commandant. What I do know is that the person who was supposed ... The applicant says that as a result of this incident, he resolved to avenge himself. Although he did not know the identity of the perpetrators, he decided to kill members or supporters of the UDF. He purchased a firearm on the 22nd of April 1990, he and his friend Beki Patrick Zwane went to a ... MR VENTER: My instructions given to me by Colonel Erwee was that if in our attempts to arrest these people, if some of them should escape and run in a northerly direction, then they would have come straight in our direction and we would then have to arrest them. MR SANDI: Did you hear that most of the people in the statements here when describing this incident, they are saying that these children were just passing by but Buzani just decided to shoot? could not see well because both lights were off. We could not see whether it was black people or white people. They left then. A short while afterwards we heard various gunshots, one after the other and I said there was a shooting somewhere, let us go to bed but Beulin still had not returned. ... DR RANDERA: When your brother returned to the country, did the police not start coming back again and questioning you people again? At that time in Barkley West - Barkley West was quiet and people were not yet aware of what was happening. And sometimes I would get advice from my friends at Kimberley. They were only giving me advice on political matters and when I was at Barkley I realised that many parents at that time ... CHAIRPERSON: Were these two people injured in the cross-fire? MR VAN HEERDEN: How many people usually attended the conference? ... He therefore regarded them, especially the third applicant, as legitimate political targets. (His evidence does of course also go a long way towards indicating that the first and third applicants acted with a political objective). The second applicant's act is therefore an act associated ... CHAIRPERSON: You know I'm just interested in this because in my culture the bones of somebody who has died in this nature is very important. It's very important for the family to know if this indeed happened, because this has already been to Pretorius and Mr Pretorius has refuted having been at ... The next day on 27 August 1993, the two of them attacked the bus at approximately midnight. Each fired a magazine at the bus. In total, approximately fifty shots were fired. They had intended shooting the driver so that the bus would crash off the bridge and into the river below. They fired at ... come back around three in the afternoon. We left. When we got back home in my shack I called my neighbour. She came. That was when I explained that Patricia had left us, she has died. People wept. It was heavy. I was also confused not knowing whether I am coming or going. Even today I am ... MR RAMPOMANE: we were at Lobatsi. We went there because Monde wanted to show us the house, that is after they have killed our people in Gaberone. On our way from Lobatsi, Monde asked us, he said he wanted to urinate. We agreed. We stopped the car and after that - I was sitting with him at the ... I did not explain what happened to him, because I was not sure. His aunt thanked me. I then stayed at home. At night while I was sleeping his family members came from Cradock. They said that they heard that there were Comrades who were killed. I was not sure whether Makhaya was one of these ... On the other hand, there is ample indication that the deceased discussed the issue of the NUMSA theft with a number of people. She never mentioned the existence of the alleged "hit list". We are satisfied that Applicant's principal motive for committing the murder was to silence the deceased and ... |
