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people's warExplanation Showing 581 to 600 of 1003 First Page•Previous Page 26 •27 •28 •29 •30 •31 •32 •33 •34 Next Page•Last PageMR DE KOCK: Chairperson, when one compiles such a parcel usually, as it was in the struggle of the past, our objective was to kill someone, we didn't go out to injure people, at least not we who worked at Vlakplaas and certainly not the Commandant. What I do know is that the person who was supposed ... MR GOOSEN: Chairperson, as indicated, I remained in the vehicle. I simply heard the sound of the explosion, so I'm unaware which target was targeted during the explosion and whether or not people were injured. MR VENTER: My instructions given to me by Colonel Erwee was that if in our attempts to arrest these people, if some of them should escape and run in a northerly direction, then they would have come straight in our direction and we would then have to arrest them. MRS SOYA: Yes, I did. I told him that children were being shot at the location and even other people too from the location came with that information and they were telling a lot of things that were happening there. Our investigators spoke to Archie Alchaster who was with the victim when he was shot. It was September 1976 and the witness states that he was one of five people travelling in a car with the victim - that’s Pieter Afrika on the day of the killing. Applicant indicated that in the turbulent political mood that prevailed at the time, white people were regarded as the political enemy and were generally accepted as targets for attack by political activists. The attack upon the deceased was not planned but as Applicant indicated, they were only ... The present Applicants, save for Brigadier Schoon, are the people who participated in the attack on the house used by Nyanda as a transit house in Mbabane, when Nyanda and McFadden wwas killed. Their evidence as to the motive for the attack and the details relating thereto agreed with those of ... CHAIRPERSON: Thank you Reverend for starting our day for us by a prayer. We welcome people who are going to appear before the Commission to-day on our last day in Kingwilliam’s Town. We will ask Ms Maya to give us the order of the day. Thank you Mr Chairperson. MR MAKOMA: It is not a normal thing to do, to know the people with their names. If you are told that these comrades are members of PAC, that should satisfy you. I was not interested in knowing their names. MR SELOANE: Yes, the attack was politically motivated. In the Unit I was part of, Akila was operation's person, Stanza was our Commander and I was the Political Commissar. We were working with Youth Organisations and Student Organisations and as Akila indicated, you know the Police were the enemy ... B MBALO: Yes, I can explain. In 1993 the COSAS asked that students should go and march in town. Then on Friday there is a river in our town, on a Friday there were many policemen beyond the river stopping people not to go to town until twelve o'clock when the school children would be taking ... CHAIRPERSON: ...(inaudible) an affidavit from those people attached to this? trial that followed. So I would like to ask you to perhaps start from the actual day of the incident, the 13th of November and tell us from there onwards what happened to you. --- I am going to ask for forgiveness that I am not educated, first of all, I will not be able to give the dates in ... MR DE KOCK: Chairperson, I did not work with the mechanism itself, that was the work of the Technical division, but I do know that it was linked to a battery and I think it is something similar to a watch battery, so it would have run out after a period of time, which have rendered the device ... MR MOGOAI: Those are the people that I met for the first time when I was taken to that base. It was a caravan like house that I was taken to. Those are the people that I left with to that place. If I was in their company, then Mr Mngadi was the driver, because Mr Mbelo and Nzimande were not ... CHAIRMAN: I just want to ask you a question. Were there any endeavours to report the Government, because your people came back from detention in ill-health. I do not know whether you understand me well? MR KHOTLE: We are people of flesh and blood, we should be able to have food and have guns so that we would be able to continue with the struggle. MR LEWIN: Could I ask, just to go back, before I pass onto other people who might have other questions. How old was your son when he left in 1976? According to his testimony, the Applicant and his comrades Denis Moeti and Abram Zweli together with their commander, Moss Mothopo, aslo known as Ramapapa, left Alexandra for Springs, on the day of the incident. Moeti could not be traced and Zweli who is in prison did not attend the hearing. ... Another issue which was raised by Adv. Mpshe in argument, was whether the application for amnesty should not be refused on the ground that the applicant and his victim, in count 1, were both members of the PAC and APLA, that is the victims was not a political enemy. Evidence submitted before the ... |
