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people's warExplanation Showing 581 to 600 of 1003 First Page•Previous Page 26 •27 •28 •29 •30 •31 •32 •33 •34 Next Page•Last PageMR JOUBERT: Mr More has testified, and you also set this out in your application, at that house you had, or some of the people had beer to drink, is that correct? These commanders did not specify their individual names as they are accepting collective responsibility for any act, omission, offence or delict committed by members of the PAC as a result of which people died, others were injured and property was damaged (paragraph 9(b) of the application form, ... The applicant did not know who the people were in the kitchen when he threw the grenade. We accept his evidence that he, at the time he threw the grenade, believed that they had come to the house to get him solely because he was a member of MK recently returned from exile. He testified that Congress Mtsweni introduced him to two persons called Mike and James. Mike and James, who were in fact Joe Mamasela and the 2nd Applicant respectively, had asked Congress to introduce them to Mr Mazibuko and John Mlangeni, as they were wanting to establish units to defend the ... MR BOSCH: It may be mistaken that he was involved in the incident that would be heard tomorrow or the day after, but I know there were other people. MR JOUBERT : Can you recall whether there were any other people present or not? political meetings, bearing in mind that the incident took place in 1992, long after the unbanning of political parties. All the evidence pointed towards the probability that this was a criminal offence for personal ... MR NIEMAN: When you gave that instruction to him, to as you call it in your statement, to give Scheepers Morudi a fright, did you foresee that during a bomb attack on this house, people in this house could be injured or killed? What transpired at the border fence site was that the Applicants and others who were present there, saw four people passing them carrying bags on the way in to South Africa. They then waited for the guide and whoever else might return to Swaziland. After hearing the vehicle drive away they ... CHAIRPERSON: Because it has become obvious during the few days we have been here that there are difficulties in conducting hearings here in Durban where the incident took place, in the North or South Coast and where the people live there. Incidentally who in the Army is deciding that, are they MK people or SADF people? MR KNIGHT: Thank you Mr Chairman. With regard to Mr Mfalapitsa, Mr Chairman, there appears to be a breakdown in communication in obtain his instructions as well as to having him here today. Arrangements were made at the inception of this hearing for him to be present today and there were interim ... MR VISSER: Madam Chair, may I move for an amendment? Chairperson, you might recall that on many occasions in the past, we have explained how it came about, it is really a mistaken reading of the questions, which gave rise to a whole hoard of people saying "not applicable" where in fact they were ... The applicant who is currently serving a long term of imprisonment for eight (8) counts of attempted murder and one count of arson was at all material times a member and cadre of the Azania People Liberation Army (APLA), the military wing of the Pan Africanist Congress of Azania (PAC), having ... CHAIRPERSON: Thank you Reverend for starting our day for us by a prayer. We welcome people who are going to appear before the Commission to-day on our last day in Kingwilliam’s Town. We will ask Ms Maya to give us the order of the day. Thank you Mr Chairperson. Applicant indicated that in the turbulent political mood that prevailed at the time, white people were regarded as the political enemy and were generally accepted as targets for attack by political activists. The attack upon the deceased was not planned but as Applicant indicated, they were only ... CHAIRPERSON: Thank you very much for coming forward. It must have been difficult for you to come and share about those experiences especially in view of the fact that some of the violations that you are talking about occurred in the context of people you believed in. We will, certainly, pass on ... CHAIRPERSON: ...(inaudible) an affidavit from those people attached to this? MR MAKOMA: It is not a normal thing to do, to know the people with their names. If you are told that these comrades are members of PAC, that should satisfy you. I was not interested in knowing their names. B MBALO: Yes, I can explain. In 1993 the COSAS asked that students should go and march in town. Then on Friday there is a river in our town, on a Friday there were many policemen beyond the river stopping people not to go to town until twelve o'clock when the school children would be taking ... |
