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people's warExplanation Showing 621 to 640 of 1003 First Page•Previous Page 28 •29 •30 •31 •32 •33 •34 •35 •36 Next Page•Last PageWe may mentioned of course that when we saw the application itself, that is the application for the amnesty, it refers to murders etcetera, etcetera, but we were are told that the whole thing, the whole truth and all the circumstances surrounding the death of those people, would in fact be ... On a certain day in 1986, Pretorius continues his evidence, he was called by Jubber into his office. He told him that that evening he was to report in Pretoria to the NTVL Security Branch parking area where he would be met by Lieutenant Jacques Hechter. He told him not to tell any person ... Also, it is required to be established whether any particular people can be identified because they have been implicated by the applicant. At an early stage, Chairperson, when the amnesty process started, Mr Kasrils together with other leading ANC members, that is members of the National Executive Committee, they all completed application forms which were to a certain extent, applications for amnesty for these leaders who were taking ... And he said when I am calling you, you must rush, you must come quickly, I said yes I am coming. Whilst I am still taking out this money and then this man shot me whilst I was standing with Simon. He - he shot us and Simon picked me up and we ran - jumped the fence and I couldn’t jump the ... MR BELLINGAN: Chairperson, I do not have all the details, but I believe it would have been the movement of people and vehicles which stopped or went past that specific house, but the finer details I cannot remember. MRS TLOU: No, it didn't, because the police came to us the previous night and then they told us that usually we Black people we do this thing called Melindela. So they told us that we must not do that. They are not going to allowing that. MRS BALOYI: In 1986 on the 11th it was at about one o' clock when I came back from work I sat in the house. Whilst there it was time to go to sleep. Whilst I was sleeping my husband came in and said to me it seems as if the police are bombing are houses nowadays ... I saw some fire and the house ... MR VISSER: Did you aim specifically at persons or did you aim at the vehicle, at places where you would have expected to find people seated? MR KOEKEMOER: I don't know who exactly went to fetch Mr Bambo. The person who signed for him, it's not clear on the form, but I do believe it was one of W/O Grobler's people and I do not know whether W/O Grobler was with. MR MADURAI: Yes, the court closes at four o'clock on a Friday and there weren't any people around so - and the point that was chosen was where there were no pedestrian traffic at all. The side of the court, so therefore at that time and place, I mean that particular place of the court was chosen. MRS MISHOMBO: We were residing in Meletsani township in Johannesburg in Johannesburg and on this day, the 29th, he left to go and look for his mother and her grandchildren, because soldiers, Government soldiers, would detain children. Gadja's soldiers were detaining people and late that night an ... MRS JANUARY: On this day I was in one house and people came to call me, telling me that my sister was shot. MR MBULI: I had no choice whatsoever. It was common knowledge and public knowledge that the said people with such behaviour and habits should be killed because they were terrorising the community together with his gang, Khumalo gang that is. ADV GCABASHE : Was it busy, were there people there or was it absolutely quiet? Graeme Simpson of the Centre for the Study of Violence and Reconciliation testified in support of the application. He confirmed that industrial relations had been politicised at this stage, and could not be viewed outside of the context of the political struggles of the time. At this particular ... ADV SANDI: Just to get some clarity on this, Mr Vermeulen. Was it known to you that this operation was going to be about the attack and killing of people in Botswana? On the 5th of December 1993, applicant accompanied by three others, set fire to and destroyed Levens Service Station in Uitenhage. Their intended target was a house in close proximity to the garage and in which some members of the South African Defence Force lived. Their operation did not go ... MR SIBEKO: Will I be correct to say that in both incidents you were carrying and AK47 which you used to shoot against the people you were fighting with? ADV MPSHE: Because other people don't believe in communism? |
