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people's warExplanation Showing 621 to 640 of 1003 First Page•Previous Page 28 •29 •30 •31 •32 •33 •34 •35 •36 Next Page•Last PageMR MOGOAI: Those are the people that I met for the first time when I was taken to that base. It was a caravan like house that I was taken to. Those are the people that I left with to that place. If I was in their company, then Mr Mngadi was the driver, because Mr Mbelo and Nzimande were not ... MR KHOTLE: We are people of flesh and blood, we should be able to have food and have guns so that we would be able to continue with the struggle. CHAIRMAN: I just want to ask you a question. Were there any endeavours to report the Government, because your people came back from detention in ill-health. I do not know whether you understand me well? CHAIRPERSON: I just would like to confirm what you say in your application, if you still agree with it, that one of the reasons for you monitoring the border post at Oshoek was to make sure that Mohale didn't travel with a larger group of people than was expected? Applicant did not know any of the attackers but was informed by Mutwa that they were people opposed to the police. After his discharge from hospital Applicant and Mutwa were reprimanded and assaulted by their Commander Captain Vermeulen who was upset by the incident. The attack on Ledig Police Station would be seen as a sign of hope by the Ledig people as the police of Bophuthatswana portrayed themselves as invincible. This would be a moral boost. It is common cause that when the first and the second applicants were taking the deceased to the police station, he pulled out a gun and before he could fire at any person, the first applicant fired a shot at the deceased using a firearm he had been given earlier on by the third applicant. After ... After leaving hospital I went daily for physiotherapy for a year and during that period I went for another operation, a bone graft. I walked on crutches for two and a half years and had to depend on other people for assistance. My life was changed overnight. I lost my job and my medical aid. I ... MR NORTJE: It was late at night, because the idea was that there wouldn't be any people in the vicinity who could spot us, so if I said 9 o'clock, it may have been too early, I think it was a bit later. I do recall that it was very quiet, that no-one was out and about. CHAIRPERSON: Thank you Reverend for starting our day for us by a prayer. We welcome people who are going to appear before the Commission to-day on our last day in Kingwilliam’s Town. We will ask Ms Maya to give us the order of the day. Thank you Mr Chairperson. MR MAKOMA: It is not a normal thing to do, to know the people with their names. If you are told that these comrades are members of PAC, that should satisfy you. I was not interested in knowing their names. MS MKHIZE: Listen carefully to me. I know that you were not there when this incident occurred. However, if any great event happens, people normally talk about it. Didn't you hear from rumours as to finding a clue what happened at the time? This is going to help us in investigating the case. Another issue which was raised by Adv. Mpshe in argument, was whether the application for amnesty should not be refused on the ground that the applicant and his victim, in count 1, were both members of the PAC and APLA, that is the victims was not a political enemy. Evidence submitted before the ... streets and there was still this confrontation between the White people and our children and people. Because whenever the soldiers would come across our people, they would shoot those. Mrs Gretina Ninela, the mother of the deceased, testified as to her son's background and activities. She described his employment history, detention for trade union activities and what she knew of his disappearance. Apart from indicating her distrust of the Applicants' evidence she could not take ... MR SHANDU: You would not know about young people back from the independence days. He said that is not independence day. I saw the South African flag and the flag of Bophuthatswana because independence, when there is freedom, you will see all the flags of many countries. So that is not ... MRS TONISI: We would hear from people in the township that they were in these different places. We did not receive any letters from him and he never phoned us. According to his testimony, the Applicant and his comrades Denis Moeti and Abram Zweli together with their commander, Moss Mothopo, aslo known as Ramapapa, left Alexandra for Springs, on the day of the incident. Moeti could not be traced and Zweli who is in prison did not attend the hearing. ... Yes sir, it is as the previous speaker said according to the time and everything where the Captain issued the - the order for them to shoot and hardly 5 minutes thereafter they started shooting. And I went to hide at the walls and moved that way but before the people started dispersing I walked ... The present Applicants, save for Brigadier Schoon, are the people who participated in the attack on the house used by Nyanda as a transit house in Mbabane, when Nyanda and McFadden wwas killed. Their evidence as to the motive for the attack and the details relating thereto agreed with those of ... |
