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people's warExplanation Showing 621 to 640 of 1003 First Page•Previous Page 28 •29 •30 •31 •32 •33 •34 •35 •36 Next Page•Last PageIt is common cause that when the first and the second applicants were taking the deceased to the police station, he pulled out a gun and before he could fire at any person, the first applicant fired a shot at the deceased using a firearm he had been given earlier on by the third applicant. After ... Now Mr Chairman, you will see that Brig Cronje there applied for each and every incident which the people who worked under him applied for. He refers there to Col Loots, Van Vuuren, Hechter, Viktor, Goosen, Roos and Crafford, but it's not a full complete list. Then you will see on the marked ... CHAIRPERSON: ... (microphone not on) ... taking a look at the papers before us, on what basis was it that Mr Dube was included in this hearing? I mean if people are sitting in Cape Town now, and they are setting down the hearings, how would it, how would they in Cape Town have linked Mr Dube's ... ... was the first to be found, and he was severely assaulted. Thereafter the group went to the deceased's house where he was found hiding in a wardrobe. He was dragged out and killed by the mob next to the taxi ... The applicant testified and confirmed his affidavit, which forms part of the record, as well as the three application forms which form part of the bundle of the documents before us. Applicant joined the PAC in 1985 whilst still a scholar. In 1991 he joined the PAC Task Force whose duties he ... MR SANDI: Are those people still around in the community? MR VISSER: The point is that if you observe people, you don't actually want them to know that you're doing it. ADV POTGIETER: And it subsequently appeared that you were shot amongst other things? Could anybody else except the people who were in the hippo, have been responsible for shooting you? MR MUHADI: I can start by on the 6th, when I was at home, I heard my sister saying that there were people who were calling me and on getting out, I realised that it was Abel who said I was expected to attend the meeting because ... The Committee find it highly improbable that when the applicant took a decision on his own, he would do so with people unknown to him and agree to share equally with them and thereafter hand his share to Mabina. Viewing this application objectively, the applicant would have approached members of ... MR VAN HEERDEN: How many people usually attended the conference? In respect of the attack on the Wimpy Restaurant, Johannes Abraham Scheepers, Bietie Malope, Amanda Jan Elizabeth Clemson and Victor Serrano opposed the application. All of them declared their objection in one way or another, questioning the justification for injuring or the taking lives of ... MR BRINK: He was in the security van when the van was ambushed by a number of these people and he was killed. CHAIRPERSON: That, if that could be done, we certainly would appreciate it because setting up a hearing like this is not an easy task. People have come from afar, at a cost and obviously we've also got an interest to get through our long list of hearings. We would very much as a panel, appreciate ... CHAIRPERSON: ...(inaudible) an affidavit from those people attached to this? trial that followed. So I would like to ask you to perhaps start from the actual day of the incident, the 13th of November and tell us from there onwards what happened to you. --- I am going to ask for forgiveness that I am not educated, first of all, I will not be able to give the dates in ... MR LEWIN: Could I ask, just to go back, before I pass onto other people who might have other questions. How old was your son when he left in 1976? MR KHOTLE: We are people of flesh and blood, we should be able to have food and have guns so that we would be able to continue with the struggle. CHAIRPERSON: Thank you very much for coming forward. It must have been difficult for you to come and share about those experiences especially in view of the fact that some of the violations that you are talking about occurred in the context of people you believed in. We will, certainly, pass on ... CHAIRPERSON: Thank you Reverend for starting our day for us by a prayer. We welcome people who are going to appear before the Commission to-day on our last day in Kingwilliam’s Town. We will ask Ms Maya to give us the order of the day. Thank you Mr Chairperson. |
