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people's warExplanation Showing 621 to 640 of 1003 First Page•Previous Page 28 •29 •30 •31 •32 •33 •34 •35 •36 Next Page•Last PageMR KOEKEMOER: I don't know who exactly went to fetch Mr Bambo. The person who signed for him, it's not clear on the form, but I do believe it was one of W/O Grobler's people and I do not know whether W/O Grobler was with. We may mentioned of course that when we saw the application itself, that is the application for the amnesty, it refers to murders etcetera, etcetera, but we were are told that the whole thing, the whole truth and all the circumstances surrounding the death of those people, would in fact be ... At an early stage, Chairperson, when the amnesty process started, Mr Kasrils together with other leading ANC members, that is members of the National Executive Committee, they all completed application forms which were to a certain extent, applications for amnesty for these leaders who were taking ... MR VISSER: Did you aim specifically at persons or did you aim at the vehicle, at places where you would have expected to find people seated? MR BELLINGAN: Chairperson, I do not have all the details, but I believe it would have been the movement of people and vehicles which stopped or went past that specific house, but the finer details I cannot remember. The applicants were all below the age of 18 at the time of the commission of the offence. They believed that they were acting on behalf of the Youth League. They were part of a large group of people and, as the Trial Court found, were probably subjected to peer pressure. During December 1989 a watershed meeting was called by the UDF in Kabusi township. This meeting was attended by high-profiled UDF and local leaders. The meeting was held in the Matomela church hall in the township. The hall was unable to accommodate the masses who had turned up for the meeting. ... And he said when I am calling you, you must rush, you must come quickly, I said yes I am coming. Whilst I am still taking out this money and then this man shot me whilst I was standing with Simon. He - he shot us and Simon picked me up and we ran - jumped the fence and I couldn’t jump the ... ... hearing now, and this letter indicated that they never received any notice and the one documentation. Now on the strength of him not having been aware of the notice service at the AW offices, the documents were then sent to them last week Friday, couriered, because, Mr Chairman, we don't serve ... I was unemployed at the time, I didn't have money, I didn't know what to do. Then I went to the ANC people to tell my position and these are the people who helped me MR JACKSON: I tried to run away at the time of the shooting and I could see people behind me falling in great numbers. I tried to run, but I just couldn't. Then I decided to check on my body and my foot, and I could feel that there was something wrong with my foot. My knee was twisted and some ... DR RAMASHALA: One of the tasks of the Commission is to find as much detail as possible about the nature of torture that was perpetrated on people in South Africa. CHAIRPERSON: And so you went, it is recorded as you're saying - "She then went to the shebeen. After about 10 minutes I followed her. I went there to call her. She came and said there aren't any people there". MR DOS SANTOS: Yes, we always had Pentolite and other forms of explosives that we used for destroying things. We would also have explosives which had been picked up by people on their property. We had many sorts of explosives which we would make use of. ... Midway or actually Soweto. We saw the activities taking place at the Midway explosion scene. I cannot recall precisely where we waited, but afterwards we told the people that we had information that there were a further two limpet mines at other points. We then went to assist Frans van Tonder ... According to the evidence of the applicant, on the 25th December 1993 his brother Gibson Ngubane and cousin Velephi Maluleke were killed in the Jobe area. The applicant says that he saw this happening. The people who killed his brother were a group which was led by Simon Zikali and Mmenezi ... The only conflict Langa was aware of were faction fights which were taking place in Nquthu. These fights continued in Johannesburg where members of the contending groups were employed. Langa was informed about the fights in Nquthu when he telephoned his mother who was permanently residing there. ... This is very difficult for other mothers and other parents who are here today. The question is - what is most difficult is that we have to bring you here and to talk about your pain and then watch you [indistinct] in pain - you had to deal with the tragedy of your loss. It is very painful, but ... The applicants testified that the deceased had been a prominent Inkatha organiser and leader and businessperson who had previously lived in their area but who had left when he joined Inkatha. It was alleged that the deceased had led attacks on their community by Inkatha supporters and that such ... ... We find this aspect highly improbable. Ndinisani concedes that he saw the children sitting around a fire in the yard and claims to have fired a warning shot so as to avoid shooting innocent people. His subsequent shooting of the women who he conceded had nothing to do with the attacks, thus ... |
