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people's warExplanation Showing 621 to 640 of 1003 First Page•Previous Page 28 •29 •30 •31 •32 •33 •34 •35 •36 Next Page•Last PageMR POTGIETER: Thank you, you may be seated. Welcome to George as well. Mr Lizo, your evidence relates to two incidents. The first one concerns an incident which happened between 1986 and 1987 where you were arrested and tortured by the police, and the second incident relates to August 1993 when ... I was unemployed at the time, I didn't have money, I didn't know what to do. Then I went to the ANC people to tell my position and these are the people who helped me MR DUMAKUDE: When I first joined the Special Operations unit, my responsibilities were to infiltrate the trained cadres and to help them to find accommodation and also to give them materials which they will need for their various operations and also to recruit people and also to recruit others to ... You give a very long answer, but in the third paragraph you say in other words, we had to obtain this information for the people who possessed that information, and whether it was from Gen Moller or whether it was from his Intelligence Staff, I can't confirm one hundred percent. But the ... It was submitted by Mr Matjele who appeared on behalf of the widow of the deceased, that the applicant had not made a full disclosure, because he did not disclose the identity or names of the people who had joined him in the attack on the deceased. CHAIRPERSON: You know I'm just interested in this because in my culture the bones of somebody who has died in this nature is very important. It's very important for the family to know if this indeed happened, because this has already been to Pretorius and Mr Pretorius has refuted having been at ... come back around three in the afternoon. We left. When we got back home in my shack I called my neighbour. She came. That was when I explained that Patricia had left us, she has died. People wept. It was heavy. I was also confused not knowing whether I am coming or going. Even today I am ... It is common cause that the applicant was a commander in the SDU which was formed in Meadowlands, Soweto, and the one formed at Merinohoek in Queenstown. He was a member of Umkhonto weSizwe (MK), the military wing of the African National Congress (ANC). Among others, his duties were to establish ... MR KNIGHT: Thank you Mr Chairman. With regard to Mr Mfalapitsa, Mr Chairman, there appears to be a breakdown in communication in obtain his instructions as well as to having him here today. Arrangements were made at the inception of this hearing for him to be present today and there were interim ... People followed, the comrades followed him and we, he, they asked him whether he did not know whether there was a consumer boycott or not. They told him to leave the truck and the truck was bunt down by the community. I did not explain what happened to him, because I was not sure. His aunt thanked me. I then stayed at home. At night while I was sleeping his family members came from Cradock. They said that they heard that there were Comrades who were killed. I was not sure whether Makhaya was one of these ... MR RAMPOMANE: we were at Lobatsi. We went there because Monde wanted to show us the house, that is after they have killed our people in Gaberone. On our way from Lobatsi, Monde asked us, he said he wanted to urinate. We agreed. We stopped the car and after that - I was sitting with him at the ... MR JOUBERT : Can you recall whether there were any other people present or not? The next day on 27 August 1993, the two of them attacked the bus at approximately midnight. Each fired a magazine at the bus. In total, approximately fifty shots were fired. They had intended shooting the driver so that the bus would crash off the bridge and into the river below. They fired at ... All the Applicants testified that they then noticed a group of people at the Tavern with Selai who had been captured and was being interrogated and assaulted for having assisted the IFP in terrorising the community. The fourth Applicant stabbed Selai on his hand with a knife. The second Applicant ... Crause testified that he accompanied Loots, Smit, Wehrmann and Modise. He helped Modise to cross the flooded Ramotswe river and thereafter accompanied him to a house which he pointed out as the target to the Special Forces members. He and Modise then stayed behind while the three members ... From there he couldn't sleep, he had nightmares and blood was flowing all over. Some of them couldn't even walk. Then they said, "Your boy are stubborn, you write in the newspapers that we policemen are killing people". On that newspaper it was written that police were killing people and they ... MS SOOKA: Can I ask people please to keep quiet. 2. The deceased was a chairperson of the ANC in the area. The applicant was an IFP supporter. His family had been killed by ANC people. Applicant had only heard that the deceased was responsible for the killing of his family. However, the deceased was at the forefront of the peace negotiations ... These people were innocent people whom he had approached. He had no reason at the time to think they were a threat to his life or political status. It was he who approached them. There was no prospect of achieving any political objective by his actions. We are therefore not satisfied that the ... |
