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people's warExplanation Showing 641 to 660 of 1003 First Page•Previous Page 29 •30 •31 •32 •33 •34 •35 •36 •37 Next Page•Last PageMR LEWIN: Also in your statement Ma Motloung, you mentioned some specific names who people who Lindiwe said she saw actually shooting him. Was there ever a case made against them ? Any charge brought against them ? MR NAUDE: C2 was not personally involved with the handling of informants, but to a greater degree, we did recruitments. We infiltrated members of the freedom movements and we interrogated people in detention concerning the training and the facilities of the organisations outside of South Africa. MR BORAINE: Chairperson, for one reason or another we've had to change the order a little bit, so I hope the witnesses aren't becoming confused, everybody will be heard, but we are just trying to accommodate different people's needs. MR BRINK: He was in the security van when the van was ambushed by a number of these people and he was killed. Fourie testified that he was a member of the Piet Retief Security Police under the command of W/O Frank Pienaar. He states that in the building they encountered about two (2) women and two (2) black youths. He ordered them to remain silent. They were never assaulted or abused by anyone of them. ... MR NDUKU: The people were singing freedom songs, the Police. Our investigators spoke to Archie Alchaster who was with the victim when he was shot. It was September 1976 and the witness states that he was one of five people travelling in a car with the victim - that’s Pieter Afrika on the day of the killing. MR SIBANYONI: In fact what I am trying to find out, were all these people MK people including this woman? After this incident, all of the ANC members, including the two applicants, left Gengeshe to stay at Ndaleni an ANC stronghold situated on the outskirts of Richmond. Their homes, which were abandoned, were burnt down. According to the police docket 30 homes were destroyed. Subsequent attempts to ... MR NEMANE: Mr Chairman, one must bear in mind that these are relatively unsophisticated people doing things on their own. MR MANDLAZI: Sizwe would not have been beaten had he not been aggressive towards the questions that we were asking him about with regards to the arrest of Thandi Modise because to us it was just unbelievable that a person could work with a person inside the country, be involved in the ferrying of ... ADV MPSHE: Now, were you told by your commanders or people who gave you the order as to what his death would do to the organisation or to the community? could not see well because both lights were off. We could not see whether it was black people or white people. They left then. A short while afterwards we heard various gunshots, one after the other and I said there was a shooting somewhere, let us go to bed but Beulin still had not returned. ... MRS NHLAYISI: He mentioned an incident relating to kidnapping one Qobani and taking him to Polla Park and in his testimony he mentioned that you were one of the people who participated in this incident. Do you confirm that? CHAIRPERSON: That, if that could be done, we certainly would appreciate it because setting up a hearing like this is not an easy task. People have come from afar, at a cost and obviously we've also got an interest to get through our long list of hearings. We would very much as a panel, appreciate ... ADV POTGIETER: And it subsequently appeared that you were shot amongst other things? Could anybody else except the people who were in the hippo, have been responsible for shooting you? The applicant testified and confirmed his affidavit, which forms part of the record, as well as the three application forms which form part of the bundle of the documents before us. Applicant joined the PAC in 1985 whilst still a scholar. In 1991 he joined the PAC Task Force whose duties he ... MR MUHADI: I can start by on the 6th, when I was at home, I heard my sister saying that there were people who were calling me and on getting out, I realised that it was Abel who said I was expected to attend the meeting because ... In respect of the attack on the Wimpy Restaurant, Johannes Abraham Scheepers, Bietie Malope, Amanda Jan Elizabeth Clemson and Victor Serrano opposed the application. All of them declared their objection in one way or another, questioning the justification for injuring or the taking lives of ... MR NDZAMELA: I would like to apologise to them and I would like to add that we did not aim at certain people or certain families even though they were affected, so I'm sorry, I apologise for what happened. |
