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people's warExplanation Showing 641 to 660 of 1003 First Page•Previous Page 29 •30 •31 •32 •33 •34 •35 •36 •37 Next Page•Last PageCHAIRPERSON: Because it has become obvious during the few days we have been here that there are difficulties in conducting hearings here in Durban where the incident took place, in the North or South Coast and where the people live there. Incidentally who in the Army is deciding that, are they MK people or SADF people? MR KNIGHT: Thank you Mr Chairman. With regard to Mr Mfalapitsa, Mr Chairman, there appears to be a breakdown in communication in obtain his instructions as well as to having him here today. Arrangements were made at the inception of this hearing for him to be present today and there were interim ... ... We find this aspect highly improbable. Ndinisani concedes that he saw the children sitting around a fire in the yard and claims to have fired a warning shot so as to avoid shooting innocent people. His subsequent shooting of the women who he conceded had nothing to do with the attacks, thus ... REV XUNDU: Here in your statement you mentioned that there were some people there in this car who had balaclavers do you perhaps know who these people were, or were they members of an organisation? The only conflict Langa was aware of were faction fights which were taking place in Nquthu. These fights continued in Johannesburg where members of the contending groups were employed. Langa was informed about the fights in Nquthu when he telephoned his mother who was permanently residing there. ... The applicants testified that the deceased had been a prominent Inkatha organiser and leader and businessperson who had previously lived in their area but who had left when he joined Inkatha. It was alleged that the deceased had led attacks on their community by Inkatha supporters and that such ... ... Midway or actually Soweto. We saw the activities taking place at the Midway explosion scene. I cannot recall precisely where we waited, but afterwards we told the people that we had information that there were a further two limpet mines at other points. We then went to assist Frans van Tonder ... The fifth applicant was a constable in the Venda Police Force at the time. He testified that he was called upon to participate in the interrogation of suspects. He and his colleagues were instructed that people who were against the government should be assaulted. He admitted that he ... Nobody was killed in the bombings. however, a number of people were injured, including Mrs M Bayo, Seipata Mokadatlo (both at Wesselsbron), Stephen Semelo, Andries Semelo, Mrs Ramorakane and Margaret Malinga (all at Viljoenskroon). MR MAKANJEE: According to my instructions there were people at the scene at the time that the applicant and his colleagues burnt the property. They ran away after that and they are not sure of what transpired after that. They do know that the house was burnt down. I went to ANC offices complaining that my son is not coming back. I asked the ANC office to look for him. They gave me another date to come back. I then came back. I met one man, but I do not remember his surname. His name was Galikie, Yoyong Galikie. He said that he was going to phone ... So why was Jama killed? The evidence leads us to the conclusion that Jama had been beaten up so badly that the applicants would never have been able to justify it to their superior. And this was the reason for subsequently killing him. After killing him, they set about destroying any evidence ... He testified that Congress Mtsweni introduced him to two persons called Mike and James. Mike and James, who were in fact Joe Mamasela and the 2nd Applicant respectively, had asked Congress to introduce them to Mr Mazibuko and John Mlangeni, as they were wanting to establish units to defend the ... MR JOUBERT : Can you recall whether there were any other people present or not? Gandlanani Village is situated in an undeveloped rural area where residents followed a tradition way of life. Like in many other similar communities, the residents of the village held a deep seated belief in witchcraft. The Applicants were no exception. They similarly believed in the ... CHAIRPERSON: And so you went, it is recorded as you're saying - "She then went to the shebeen. After about 10 minutes I followed her. I went there to call her. She came and said there aren't any people there". ADV GCABASHE : Was it busy, were there people there or was it absolutely quiet? CHAIRPERSON: You know I'm just interested in this because in my culture the bones of somebody who has died in this nature is very important. It's very important for the family to know if this indeed happened, because this has already been to Pretorius and Mr Pretorius has refuted having been at ... The applicant did not know who the people were in the kitchen when he threw the grenade. We accept his evidence that he, at the time he threw the grenade, believed that they had come to the house to get him solely because he was a member of MK recently returned from exile. |
