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people's warExplanation Showing 641 to 660 of 1003 First Page•Previous Page 29 •30 •31 •32 •33 •34 •35 •36 •37 Next Page•Last PageMR NORTJE: It was late at night, because the idea was that there wouldn't be any people in the vicinity who could spot us, so if I said 9 o'clock, it may have been too early, I think it was a bit later. I do recall that it was very quiet, that no-one was out and about. It is common cause that when the first and the second applicants were taking the deceased to the police station, he pulled out a gun and before he could fire at any person, the first applicant fired a shot at the deceased using a firearm he had been given earlier on by the third applicant. After ... DR BORAINE: Welcome Mr Meyer. My first word to you must be one of apology. You may have made other arrangements for this afternoon thinking you would be heard before lunch. I am sorry we can try and move but we don't want to do it to the detriment of people who are giving witness, so forgive us ... Ms Mjada and Ms Ntsizakalo I think every mother who heard you speaking today ill be able to sympathise with you. We all hope that our sons will grow up healthy and strong and able to lead productive lives. And we can really understand your anxiety about them now about their future. You’ve shown ... MS SOOKA: Were there other people who were shot in the same incident, by the same man? MRS NKENKE: Yes, there was going to be a prayer meeting concerning the people that were shot in 1983. MR MATJENI: I'm not able to state anything in regard to the photo album because it was used in various operations, it was shown to many people. But I don't remember in this particular instance whether the album was used. CHAIRPERSON: That, if that could be done, we certainly would appreciate it because setting up a hearing like this is not an easy task. People have come from afar, at a cost and obviously we've also got an interest to get through our long list of hearings. We would very much as a panel, appreciate ... The Committee recommends that the injured people listed in Annexure "A" hereto be referred for consideration as victims in terms of Section 22 of the Act. MR MOERANE: Unfortunately in this incident civilians happened to be around the place at the time of the explosion and were injured. Do you have anything to say to the injured people? JUDGE MOTATA: Just to go back to you, Mr Coetzee? At the beginning, I don't know if I've got everything right, you said you are representing the family of Mr Neethling, the driver, who is now deceased. We are supposed to, in terms of the Act, if we do grant amnesty, that we should refer to the ... ... in line with the APLA policy of attacking white homes and "repossess" weapons for use by APLA. He could not corroborate Duma that the money was forwarded to their Head Quarters in the Transkei which were administered by one "Mbulelo Dlamini", but he assumes that the money was received by Dlamini ... MRS TONISI: We would hear from people in the township that they were in these different places. We did not receive any letters from him and he never phoned us. MR LEWIN: Could I ask, just to go back, before I pass onto other people who might have other questions. How old was your son when he left in 1976? Yes sir, it is as the previous speaker said according to the time and everything where the Captain issued the - the order for them to shoot and hardly 5 minutes thereafter they started shooting. And I went to hide at the walls and moved that way but before the people started dispersing I walked ... MR MTHALANE: With regards to Mr Mkunu, it was Mr Kuswaya who showed me that there were ANC members, and he also showed me the area that that was an ANC area. It was usual that there would be political conflict in the area, instances such as exchange of fire. On that day, the 27th, we had been ... MR MAKOMA: It is not a normal thing to do, to know the people with their names. If you are told that these comrades are members of PAC, that should satisfy you. I was not interested in knowing their names. MR SELOANE: Yes, the attack was politically motivated. In the Unit I was part of, Akila was operation's person, Stanza was our Commander and I was the Political Commissar. We were working with Youth Organisations and Student Organisations and as Akila indicated, you know the Police were the enemy ... According to his testimony, the Applicant and his comrades Denis Moeti and Abram Zweli together with their commander, Moss Mothopo, aslo known as Ramapapa, left Alexandra for Springs, on the day of the incident. Moeti could not be traced and Zweli who is in prison did not attend the hearing. ... streets and there was still this confrontation between the White people and our children and people. Because whenever the soldiers would come across our people, they would shoot those. |
