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people's warExplanation Showing 661 to 680 of 1003 First Page•Previous Page 30 •31 •32 •33 •34 •35 •36 •37 •38 Next Page•Last PageIt was submitted by Mr Matjele who appeared on behalf of the widow of the deceased, that the applicant had not made a full disclosure, because he did not disclose the identity or names of the people who had joined him in the attack on the deceased. CHAIRPERSON: You know I'm just interested in this because in my culture the bones of somebody who has died in this nature is very important. It's very important for the family to know if this indeed happened, because this has already been to Pretorius and Mr Pretorius has refuted having been at ... The next day on 27 August 1993, the two of them attacked the bus at approximately midnight. Each fired a magazine at the bus. In total, approximately fifty shots were fired. They had intended shooting the driver so that the bus would crash off the bridge and into the river below. They fired at ... ADV GCABASHE : Was it busy, were there people there or was it absolutely quiet? come back around three in the afternoon. We left. When we got back home in my shack I called my neighbour. She came. That was when I explained that Patricia had left us, she has died. People wept. It was heavy. I was also confused not knowing whether I am coming or going. Even today I am ... The applicant did not know who the people were in the kitchen when he threw the grenade. We accept his evidence that he, at the time he threw the grenade, believed that they had come to the house to get him solely because he was a member of MK recently returned from exile. Once at Umgababa he, his co-Applicants and other people from his area joined some sort of self-defence units and engaged in training with firearms and other weapons. They were involved in a number of attacks and incidents of political violence against neighbouring areas that were prevalent at the ... MR DU PLESSIS: No, I was going to place that on record now Mr Chairman. May I just place on record for purposes of Mr Visser and Mr Wagener, that Brigadier Cronje's application which was bound into the Bundles, was his first set of applications, which were already heard during the previous ... [Indistinct] ... to get the situation clear in my mind, on the day when you were shot what was the situation in Paballelo? Was there unrest? Was there police activity?--- There was unrest during that time. As you know, every year on the 15th June arrangements are made for the commemoration on ... These commanders did not specify their individual names as they are accepting collective responsibility for any act, omission, offence or delict committed by members of the PAC as a result of which people died, others were injured and property was damaged (paragraph 9(b) of the application form, ... After he was discharged from hospital, he was working for Mita, but he was having fits. Then when I asked him what had actually happened, he said they saw a group of people as they were patrolling, and these people were toyi- toying and they just heard gunshots and one fell and the others jumped ... The Applicant described a situation of ongoing political conflict between members of the PAC and members of the African National Congress ("ANC"). He related a number of incidents in which people were killed, homes burnt and people forced to leave the township. On the day of the attack the Applicant was asleep. Three people came to him. They were Sipho Nkwanyana, Nhlanhla Mcellak and Sicelinhlanh'a Cele. He woke up ad joined about thirty others. He told the group that they should go to Mr Chonco's house and that no one should be allowed to come out, ... GEN COETZEE: Chairperson, the position was as follows. When I appeared before a Regional Commission I asked them, with respect, great respect, the Chairman at that stage was Archbishop Tutu, whether he or the legal advisors of the Commission was of the opinion that for want of a better definition, ... MR PRINSLOO: And the Sannieshof Liquor Store, the person there, Mr Pereiro says in affidavit on page 98 of the documents, that it was only done because black people attended that hotel, is that true? The Committee is aware that the IFP has consistently stated that they were not involved and did not associate themselves with violence or robberies. There is, however, abundant evidence in various applications that party members and supporters were involved in the inter-party warfare and that ... MR LAMEY: When you refer to "they", who are these people that you refer to? ... led to violence and killings involving people from the same villages and even members of the same family on opposing sides.. The Committee is aware of other matters where offences were committed not only with a political objective but also involving a strong personal element and carefully ... JUDGE PILLAY: What I want to know, he sounds to me as if he is in a special position with regard to people who are assaulted, attacked. Why can't you remember that or remember his case? To me, it is no the usual type of thing? ... was informed by Captain Opperman that there would be an attack upon Victor Ntuli and he was provided with a sketch plan of the house. Applicant war ordered to prepare a group of former Operation Marion trainees to execute the attack. The preparations took place near to Ulundi and it entailed ... |
