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people's warExplanation Showing 661 to 680 of 1003 First Page•Previous Page 30 •31 •32 •33 •34 •35 •36 •37 •38 Next Page•Last PageMRS TLOU: No, it didn't, because the police came to us the previous night and then they told us that usually we Black people we do this thing called Melindela. So they told us that we must not do that. They are not going to allowing that. And he said when I am calling you, you must rush, you must come quickly, I said yes I am coming. Whilst I am still taking out this money and then this man shot me whilst I was standing with Simon. He - he shot us and Simon picked me up and we ran - jumped the fence and I couldn’t jump the ... MR KNIGHT: Thank you Mr Chairman. With regard to Mr Mfalapitsa, Mr Chairman, there appears to be a breakdown in communication in obtain his instructions as well as to having him here today. Arrangements were made at the inception of this hearing for him to be present today and there were interim ... DR RAMASHALA: One of the tasks of the Commission is to find as much detail as possible about the nature of torture that was perpetrated on people in South Africa. MR BELLINGAN: Chairperson, I do not have all the details, but I believe it would have been the movement of people and vehicles which stopped or went past that specific house, but the finer details I cannot remember. You give a very long answer, but in the third paragraph you say in other words, we had to obtain this information for the people who possessed that information, and whether it was from Gen Moller or whether it was from his Intelligence Staff, I can't confirm one hundred percent. But the ... ... hearing now, and this letter indicated that they never received any notice and the one documentation. Now on the strength of him not having been aware of the notice service at the AW offices, the documents were then sent to them last week Friday, couriered, because, Mr Chairman, we don't serve ... I did not explain what happened to him, because I was not sure. His aunt thanked me. I then stayed at home. At night while I was sleeping his family members came from Cradock. They said that they heard that there were Comrades who were killed. I was not sure whether Makhaya was one of these ... On the other hand, there is ample indication that the deceased discussed the issue of the NUMSA theft with a number of people. She never mentioned the existence of the alleged "hit list". We are satisfied that Applicant's principal motive for committing the murder was to silence the deceased and ... People followed, the comrades followed him and we, he, they asked him whether he did not know whether there was a consumer boycott or not. They told him to leave the truck and the truck was bunt down by the community. MR DUMAKUDE: When I first joined the Special Operations unit, my responsibilities were to infiltrate the trained cadres and to help them to find accommodation and also to give them materials which they will need for their various operations and also to recruit people and also to recruit others to ... ... He therefore regarded them, especially the third applicant, as legitimate political targets. (His evidence does of course also go a long way towards indicating that the first and third applicants acted with a political objective). The second applicant's act is therefore an act associated ... MR RAMPOMANE: we were at Lobatsi. We went there because Monde wanted to show us the house, that is after they have killed our people in Gaberone. On our way from Lobatsi, Monde asked us, he said he wanted to urinate. We agreed. We stopped the car and after that - I was sitting with him at the ... GEN COETZEE: Chairperson, the position was as follows. When I appeared before a Regional Commission I asked them, with respect, great respect, the Chairman at that stage was Archbishop Tutu, whether he or the legal advisors of the Commission was of the opinion that for want of a better definition, ... MR PRINSLOO: And the Sannieshof Liquor Store, the person there, Mr Pereiro says in affidavit on page 98 of the documents, that it was only done because black people attended that hotel, is that true? The Committee is aware that the IFP has consistently stated that they were not involved and did not associate themselves with violence or robberies. There is, however, abundant evidence in various applications that party members and supporters were involved in the inter-party warfare and that ... symbolised the system of apartheid. The intention was to focus the attention of Whites on the liberation struggle and the effects of the liberation war being waged by the ANC. By inflicting casualties upon the white population the apartheid regime would be pressurised by and isolated from ... The same does not apply to the first applicant. Although there was, on his own evidence, no prior agreement to shoot or kill anyone, he himself decided to do so on the spur of the moment. This however, was not an end to the matter, he again shot the maid as she was lying on the floor and the ... During an attack by the IFP on the ANC on 26 February 1993 several ANC members were injured and Joseph Mlambo, Johannes Bengu and Themba Ngwenya were killed. That led to a discussion by 20 members of the ANC on the evening of the 1st of March 1993 where a counter attack was discussed. This ... She never issued any orders for any specific people to be killed. |