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people's warExplanation Showing 661 to 680 of 1003 First Page•Previous Page 30 •31 •32 •33 •34 •35 •36 •37 •38 Next Page•Last PageMR MOGOAI: Those are the people that I met for the first time when I was taken to that base. It was a caravan like house that I was taken to. Those are the people that I left with to that place. If I was in their company, then Mr Mngadi was the driver, because Mr Mbelo and Nzimande were not ... CHAIRPERSON: Thank you very much for coming forward. It must have been difficult for you to come and share about those experiences especially in view of the fact that some of the violations that you are talking about occurred in the context of people you believed in. We will, certainly, pass on ... DR BORAINE: Welcome Mr Meyer. My first word to you must be one of apology. You may have made other arrangements for this afternoon thinking you would be heard before lunch. I am sorry we can try and move but we don't want to do it to the detriment of people who are giving witness, so forgive us ... It is common cause that when the first and the second applicants were taking the deceased to the police station, he pulled out a gun and before he could fire at any person, the first applicant fired a shot at the deceased using a firearm he had been given earlier on by the third applicant. After ... CHAIRPERSON: ...(inaudible) an affidavit from those people attached to this? MRS SOYA: Yes, I did. I told him that children were being shot at the location and even other people too from the location came with that information and they were telling a lot of things that were happening there. MR MOERANE: Unfortunately in this incident civilians happened to be around the place at the time of the explosion and were injured. Do you have anything to say to the injured people? JUDGE MOTATA: Just to go back to you, Mr Coetzee? At the beginning, I don't know if I've got everything right, you said you are representing the family of Mr Neethling, the driver, who is now deceased. We are supposed to, in terms of the Act, if we do grant amnesty, that we should refer to the ... ... attack would have been triggered off by a minor assault upon Applicant's brother, in the absence of any pre-existing political animosity towards the deceased. The fact that the Applicant was a policeman at the time renders the existence of political animosity towards him even more ... Ms Mjada and Ms Ntsizakalo I think every mother who heard you speaking today ill be able to sympathise with you. We all hope that our sons will grow up healthy and strong and able to lead productive lives. And we can really understand your anxiety about them now about their future. You’ve shown ... Applicant did not know any of the attackers but was informed by Mutwa that they were people opposed to the police. After his discharge from hospital Applicant and Mutwa were reprimanded and assaulted by their Commander Captain Vermeulen who was upset by the incident. The attack on Ledig Police Station would be seen as a sign of hope by the Ledig people as the police of Bophuthatswana portrayed themselves as invincible. This would be a moral boost. CHAIRPERSON: I just would like to confirm what you say in your application, if you still agree with it, that one of the reasons for you monitoring the border post at Oshoek was to make sure that Mohale didn't travel with a larger group of people than was expected? GEN COETZEE: Chairperson, the position was as follows. When I appeared before a Regional Commission I asked them, with respect, great respect, the Chairman at that stage was Archbishop Tutu, whether he or the legal advisors of the Commission was of the opinion that for want of a better definition, ... MR PRINSLOO: And the Sannieshof Liquor Store, the person there, Mr Pereiro says in affidavit on page 98 of the documents, that it was only done because black people attended that hotel, is that true? The Committee is aware that the IFP has consistently stated that they were not involved and did not associate themselves with violence or robberies. There is, however, abundant evidence in various applications that party members and supporters were involved in the inter-party warfare and that ... ... targets for attack in terms of this policy. These attacks were, moreover, executed in accordance with the relevant international conventions on warfare and insofar as the Applicants were concerned they were soldiers engaged in a just war for the liberation of their people from oppression. ... ADV DE JAGER: In cases during which people were killed in landmine explosions or when infiltrations took place, were you blamed or were members of the police blamed for not doing their job and seeing to the safety of the people? ... was informed by Captain Opperman that there would be an attack upon Victor Ntuli and he was provided with a sketch plan of the house. Applicant war ordered to prepare a group of former Operation Marion trainees to execute the attack. The preparations took place near to Ulundi and it entailed ... The Deceased, together with Bheki Nkosi, was arrested on Thursday 9th June 1988 in a flat he shared with the said Nkosi in Hillbrow, Johannesburg. They were arrested by members of the West Rand Division of the Security Branch who were assisted by the 2nd, 3rd and 4th Applicants. After their ... |
