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people's warExplanation Showing 721 to 740 of 1003 First Page•Previous Page 33 •34 •35 •36 •37 •38 •39 •40 •41 Next Page•Last PageCHAIRPERSON: This has not been a hearing where there's been a great deal of conflicting evidence where one has to weigh up the evidence. There have been differences between various people as to who was at what meeting, who did precisely what but the picture of what happened is reasonably clear, ... MR HATTINGH: Yes, yes, that's all I'm trying to put on record, that the string and the wax might have been applied in the post office and not by the people who prepared the package. CHAIRPERSON: But definitely it can't be the same, I mean a discussion or an arrangement being made to abduct Mr Mahlangu and the one to abduct Miss Mahlangu, that cannot be the same. To me they are completely different. These are individuals with different political backgrounds from the evidence ... Shabangu testified that he was an ANC Youth League supporter. He did not have personal knowledge of the deceased but he was aware of the rumours that the deceased was an informer. He stated that he was present at the ANC Youth League meeting which was held at a school where they also spoke ... The applicant was at the material times hereto a member of the Azanian Youth League (AYL) in Duduza and attached to the Pan Africanist Congress (PAC). He says that he was taught through the teachings of the PAC that white people were the cause of black people's misery and had taken the land. ... The further issue in dispute relates to the number of persons who had to be killed. De Kock testified that Nieuwoudt only referred to three persons who had to be killed, namely two members of the Port Elizabeth Security Police and an askari. The specific people were unknown to de Kock. ... In 1985 it was a very-very difficult time for many people. The township was besieged, search lights were shining in the streets, foot patrols, people weren’t allowed to come in and out - it was a very difficult time. Perhaps you can tell us what happened to your son during those circumstances. MR MOTHUPI: At that time they were using, policemen were using teargas because students used old vehicles to block the roads. Some prevented people from going to work. It was during those violent times. After the ousting of the Sebe regime in Ciskei through a military coup, the military government headed by Brigadier Gqozo propounded the replacement of the headmen system with democratically elected civic structures. This move was widely welcomed by the people of the Ciskei. At a later stage and ... MRS TWALA: No, he just wrote the statement and thereafter I was called in by another attorney stating that that, that attorney has disappeared with other people's statements. So I was advised to take that statement and take further steps with it. DR RANDERA: Perhaps I am asking the same question but in a different way. You have told us what happened or what your understanding of your husband was, what happened to him, can you perhaps tell us about your husband because we don't know anything about him and I think people should know who your ... When they came to the house he was told by Teenage to follow him into the house and once inside to fire at the occupants. He did not have to go into the rooms. Come Again was instructed to remain outside to be on the look out for possible interference with the attackers. All was done as ordered ... The victim, Mr Maliti, was a member of the Security Branch of the police force. He was viewed by the community and the applicants as very notorious and controversial. He was in the fore-front of the conflict and confrontation between the community and the police. He terrorised, harassed and ... CHAIRPERSON: Good morning everybody. I apologise for the slightly late start, but I am informed that the traffic on certain roads is very heavy and that caused a delay, getting certain people to the hearing. Any inconvenience is regretted. Yesterday I introduced the panel, we are starting some ... The applicant's version before us is that he never entered the house in question. He says all the shots were fired from outside as he continuously moved from one spot to another,such as from door to window, shooting blindly. He says he never specifically aimed at any of the victims. That each ... "to protect my people and to make sure that there was no mismanagement of funds belonging to the SDU members." It is common cause that there was an ongoing political battle between the IFP hostel dwellers and the members of the Toaster Gang on one side and the ANC people living in Tembisa on the other. Consequently the ANC formed Self Defence Units to protect their supporters as well as the residents. ... It is common cause that no-one was injured in the attack and that extensive damage was caused to the homestead. The applicants said that they took care to ensure that they fired in such a way as to avoid people in the homestead being injured. MR FLOYD: I had never met these people before, I did not know where they were. I then asked Colonel Joe Verster, he directed me to where their offices were. "Without proper authorization listened to conversations of target people such as Allan Boesak, Dr Nthato Motlana, Bishop Desmond Tutu, Halton Cheadle, etc. ... I was involved directly in this activity throughout my duties at Johannesburg Security Branch during 1982 - 1986." |
