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people's warExplanation Showing 741 to 760 of 1003 First Page•Previous Page 34 •35 •36 •37 •38 •39 •40 •41 •42 Next Page•Last PageI must stress that we are not making a finding that all the latter three people are entitled to have their amnesty applications heard. What we are doing is endeavouring to make arrangements or to ensure that arrangements are made that at the adjourned hearing, the Committee which hears the ... CHAIRPERSON: Good morning everybody. Today we are going to hear the applications for amnesty of the following people, T Mutle, P Mfusa, N F Ranoto, Nkuna and S P Blose. All four offences were committed in the process of a planned attack on the said police station. The applicants were all trained members of Umkhonto weSizwe (MK) the military wing of the African National Congress (ANC). They were trained in combat and arms in the Soviet Union and Angola. At the ... Applicants have testified that they knew that it was not ANC policy to carry out acts of robbery. They say that because they found themselves in a life and death situation they had not choice but to devise plans to protect their people. They also say that they were not acting out of malice or ... "I was amongst the people who chased the deceased, Mr Moeng, from his house and poured petrol on him and set him alight although I could not get a chance to assault and burn him personally due to many people in front of me. However, I had the common purpose of killing the deceased ... CHAIRPERSON: The other people who gave evidence, referred to the Jubilee Hotel, saying that they were called there, were you also called? Thank you chairperson - perhaps just before I ask the witness to take the oath, the translation devices that we’ve got, enables people to listen in to the testimony in the language to which you can follow. Now on the black box section of the translation device there are two wheels, the one wheel ... It was put to applicant that evidence had been led that by 1993 levels of violence at Ermelo had significantly dwindled and that there was no more fighting there. He explained that although violence had generally subsided, in his area which he referred to as the extension where Black Cats were ... MR SIBANYONI: The problem we are saddled with, Mr Kruger, is that the Act envisages that people will be acting in authority of publicly known organisations or parties etcetera, now having a letter from the CP, which to an extent indicates that they never advocated a policy of, I would say, carrying ... really was the bigger picture. Now you give evidence about the Mbokoto people taking you away on your own, torturing you, giving you a tough time, beating you up. You were a leader, you were chairman of the UDF branch there at Kwagga. We had a number of other witnesses today who talked about the ... The applicant testified that the incidents he is applying for occurred between the 23rd June 1991 to 26th June 1991. The people he attacked were people whom he believed were enemies who were going to attack them. This belief was fortified becauese they were in a "no-go" area as declared by the ... CHAIRPERSON: Mr Hattingh, I am now told that Mr Greyling has had an opportunity to speak to you, amongst the people that he refers to by other legal representatives, what is your attitude with regard to having the matter postponed again to another date? The applicant testified that as Chief of Staff his duty was to give orders to the operatives to infiltrate the Republic of South Africa and recruit sympathetic members of the community to join MK. These people were then trained by Mapnya and Toka and participated in military activities in ... At the time in question political violence was rife in the Mpumalanga area. The violence, which involved supporters of the IFP on the one side and supporters of the ANC on the other, was on-going and resulted in many people being killed and injured and much property being destroyed. "We were youths who were calling themselves comrades although we were not affiliated to any political party. Our main aim was to discipline people who were committing crimes". MR SIMANGA: Insp Mfene showed the dissatisfaction of the government, of the way the government was treating us as the police in the former Ciskei and the working conditions and the things that were happening such as killing of people. The Applicants testified that they were members of the security department of the ANC at the time and were asked to investigate complaints by the community in Dambuza. This involved complaints about intimidation by a gang led by the deceased. There were allegations that this gang acted in support ... CHAIRPERSON: I think we must bear in mind that we're talking of something nine years ago and for people to remember precisely who was in what car at what stage of the journey, is ... Right, questions? MR KOOPEDI: The only sad part Chair is that Judge Motata's comments were not recorded as his mike was off and I believe it is important for us to note that it is indeed the Vanderbijl Square and not Vanderbijlpark which is a town in the Vaal. I would then say, Chairperson, that is the application ... MR DU PREEZ SMIT: Well we did find out that there was a vehicle that exploded there, that people were killed. I do not know how many and I do not know how many were injured, and that the hospital itself was damaged by this explosion. |
