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people's warExplanation Showing 741 to 760 of 1003 First Page•Previous Page 34 •35 •36 •37 •38 •39 •40 •41 •42 Next Page•Last PageCHAIRPERSON: Well being entirely selfish, I will first of all make a confession that the members of the Committee have been asked to have lunch with the IDASA people and a distinguished American guest, so it seems that whatever happens, we would probably have to stay here till two o'clock. Would ... During 1989 the Applicant assisted in transporting arms from Namibia to Vlakplaas. The Applicant understood the reason to have been to prevent the arms from falling into the hands of SWAPO (the South West Africa People's Organisation). He is unable to state whether the weapons were at that ... And that’s signed by dr Van Heerden. I would also like it placed on record that a number of people from the community have come to us and said that dr Van Heerden is known in this community as a very caring and compassionate doctor. CROSS-EXAMINATION BY MR VISSER: Mr Snyders, page 232, you state, or let me put it to you like this, Colonel De Kock said that he asked Brigadier Erasmus what would happen if policemen were to arrive. He said, "Shoot them dead". What would happen if members of the public arrived there? He said, ... MR SIPHO: Okay, and is it true that later that afternoon, you were part of a group of people that accosted the deceased and began assaulting her? Many people lost their children and many children lost their parents. We therefore thank you that you have come to share your pain with us and we also promise that we are with you at heart, thank you. CHAIRPERSON: Good afternoon everybody. We were to start today with the application of Mr Richardson which was postponed at the end of last year to continue with the same. I must apologise that we have experienced hiccups in the process that the latest is before I go to what happened first is that ... So Chairperson, I will submit that these people were not disowned by the ANC, they were doing exactly what the ANC wanted to see happening. Therefore they fall within the ambit. The applicant was a member of Special Operations of Umkhonto weSizwe, the Military wing of the African National Congress (the ANC). He received extensive military training abroad. In 1991 he was instructed by the army commander, Mr Joe Modise to establish Self Defence Units in order to protect ... MR FLORES: One of the applicants who already testified was Mr Tait. There were one or two people from the Task Force, I can't recall names. The Applicant confirmed the evidence given by the above-mentioned Applicants and testified that he, at the time a constable, operated under the orders of Captain Hechter. The facts, briefly stated are that the deceased allegedly was a member of a cell of ANC activists, lead by Sefola, which ... CHAIRPERSON: Mr Ngqunge you are one of the persons referred by the previous witness, not so, as being part of a group of people who embarked on these ventures. Is that correct? This accorded to a large extent with the evidence he gave before us when he said the purpose of the attack was to promote their organisation and to take revenge against their enemies. he talked of the attack on his group which was relaxing at Gumede's house and the cars subsequent return to ... [indistinct] just yet. I just want to thank you very much for coming and to hope that you will feel better as a result of having talked to us about the very bad experience that you had when you were in detention and we ask that people should treat those experiences with respect and understanding. ... MR HAMMOND: Chairperson, while we were busy with discussions regarding how we would penetrate the building mention was made of a rope which we were to use. I climbed many ropes in my life but there are a number of people who don't know how to do that and it was quite high to the basement going ... MR NYAKAMA: I was a secretary in our section, that is Lusaka-A. That is, I was a SANCO secretary. Our duties included listening to people's complaints and we also sat at the SANCO central level where we represented people's complaints. MR RICHARD: By way of information, how many people entered into this particular police station? In conclusion it has to be pointed out that this incident is a stark reminder of the price that many innocent people paid for the eventual solution of the political problem and conflict in our country. The applicant, when testifying at the hearing of this matter, stated that he joined the Azanian Peoples Liberation Army (APLA) during 1985. He stated that he was approached by his commander, one Mziwabantu Stokwe, who told him that they were going on a mission to get money and firearms. The ... Van Zyl said that it was the view of his unit that the United Democratic Front (UDF) was responsible for politicising the people and consequently for the unrest experienced in the various Eastern Cape areas including Cradock where the Cradock Residents Association ("CRADORA") was established and ... |
