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people's warExplanation Showing 741 to 760 of 1003 First Page•Previous Page 34 •35 •36 •37 •38 •39 •40 •41 •42 Next Page•Last PageCHAIRPERSON: ...(inaudible). There are other matters involved in Mr Thusi's application, which do not involve the present parties and which I have not commented on, but I would urge that the papers are gone through carefully and if there are any other persons who should be notified or informed of ... MR MXUTU: Col Duli said that as we knew that Ms Stella Sigcau's government was overthrown by the soldiers and these soldiers said after six months it would change and then he said that that six months had elapsed, so he wanted us to do what had happened to the previous government. He wanted us to ... "to protect my people and to make sure that there was no mismanagement of funds belonging to the SDU members." CHAIRPERSON: Well being entirely selfish, I will first of all make a confession that the members of the Committee have been asked to have lunch with the IDASA people and a distinguished American guest, so it seems that whatever happens, we would probably have to stay here till two o'clock. Would ... This is an application for amnesty in terms of the provisions of Section 19 of the Promotion of National Unity and Reconciliation Act No. 34 of 1995 ("the Act"). The application relates to the death of Mziwonke "Pro" Jack, a high-profiled African National Congress ("ANC") member in the Western ... The first applicant testified that he had been trained as an MK Soldier, both inside and outside South Africa and that at the time of the incidents under discussion he was the Commander of the second applicant and other members of an ANC cell which had been created in the Newcastle area. First ... At the time in question the police were regarded by both the Mamelodi Committee and MK as being enemies of the people. Members of the SAP had been harassing and victimising members of the Mamelodi community and various attacks were planned and carried out by MK against members of the SAP as ... MR NYAKAMA: I was a secretary in our section, that is Lusaka-A. That is, I was a SANCO secretary. Our duties included listening to people's complaints and we also sat at the SANCO central level where we represented people's complaints. And that’s signed by dr Van Heerden. I would also like it placed on record that a number of people from the community have come to us and said that dr Van Heerden is known in this community as a very caring and compassionate doctor. During 1989 the Applicant assisted in transporting arms from Namibia to Vlakplaas. The Applicant understood the reason to have been to prevent the arms from falling into the hands of SWAPO (the South West Africa People's Organisation). He is unable to state whether the weapons were at that ... CHAIRPERSON: Ms Patel, can we again implore your Department to ensure that when matters are set down, they have been fully investigated and very ripe for a hearing in order to avoid matters being postponed only when we are here in a venue and at great costs I think to the people who are attending ... The lawyer of the accused just talked and thereafter and the Magistrate although said but the interpreter told me that these people were found not guilty. The one thing that hurt me my witnesses were not there, my lawyer was not there. The doctor didn’t give his statement. I just heard that the ... MR VABAZA: The third applicant, Mr Chairperson and members, is Mabitana Mani. He is also amongst the five group of people. MRS MTSWENI: I do not believe that it was a natural death. He was always undergoing treatment and I think there’s some substance that was coming out of his mouth. I think this was a direct result of the attack by the Inkatha people six previous years. MR KOPEDI: If I may, Honourable Chairperson, I'm going to ask for a postponement of this matter sine die. The reasons are that all the applicants are not here as we speak and also the victim, there is one victim in this matter, the victim is not here and basically we did not have any application ... All the applications comply with the requirements of the Act; the Applicants have made full disclosure of all the material facts relevant to their actions and the acts for which amnesty is sought are acts associated with a political objective. What the Applicants aimed at by preventing screening ... All right. You were shot coming from a rally and there were many people there. Were you ever charged for anything that happened on that day? Shall I repeat the question. You were shot by the police when you were coming from Steve Tshwete's rally. Did the police ever come to you and charge you ... FURTHER EXAMINATION BY MR BOOYENS: Mr Kok, you have already given evidence in this application and in your evidence you mentioned that you were present with the people from Vlakplaas when the cassette player was bought along with the earphones, is that correct? Coetzee states that other members ("co-handlers") reported to him that they were unhappy about the poor discipline of the deceased and his laxity with security. He says the deceased would also abuse state vehicles and on numerous occasions absented himself from work without permit. Coetzee ... Mokoena's response was he was referring to the leaders as people who knew of the activities of the gang, and knew that the ANC Youth League members were victims of these attacks. |
