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people's warExplanation Showing 801 to 820 of 1003 First Page•Previous Page 37 •38 •39 •40 •41 •42 •43 •44 •45 Next Page•Last PageMR NYAKAMA: I was a secretary in our section, that is Lusaka-A. That is, I was a SANCO secretary. Our duties included listening to people's complaints and we also sat at the SANCO central level where we represented people's complaints. MRS MTSWENI: I do not believe that it was a natural death. He was always undergoing treatment and I think there’s some substance that was coming out of his mouth. I think this was a direct result of the attack by the Inkatha people six previous years. The lawyer of the accused just talked and thereafter and the Magistrate although said but the interpreter told me that these people were found not guilty. The one thing that hurt me my witnesses were not there, my lawyer was not there. The doctor didn’t give his statement. I just heard that the ... All right. You were shot coming from a rally and there were many people there. Were you ever charged for anything that happened on that day? Shall I repeat the question. You were shot by the police when you were coming from Steve Tshwete's rally. Did the police ever come to you and charge you ... MR KOPEDI: If I may, Honourable Chairperson, I'm going to ask for a postponement of this matter sine die. The reasons are that all the applicants are not here as we speak and also the victim, there is one victim in this matter, the victim is not here and basically we did not have any application ... On the day in question, Applicant and his fellow SDU members were patrolling the township in defence of members of the community against attacks from the contending forces of the Inkatha Freedom Party ("IFP"). They had earlier received information from a source within the police that the IFP ... When questioned about the group of people who were allegedly present at the time of the killing, the applicant vehemently denied their presence and called it a "blue lie". Only later after much cross-examination he conceded their presence and rather unconvincingly explained that he did not want to ... the persons who guarded the entrance and searched people who entered the tavern. He was not there when the deceased refused to be searched but was aware of it at the time of the incident since he had been so informed by his comrades. He also knew first hand of the deceased’s refusal to be ... MR MOPEDI: And the people that you were fighting, that you were shooting at, who were they, were those people IFP people? MR MANTHATA: It is cruel to experience that in a family. It is very hurtful. And it is also very hurting when that comes the way it approached to you. You didn't know how your child died or who killed him. We might say it was the police who killed him because by that time people were from the ... MR CORNELIUS: Did you have knowledge that commanders in certain areas had to take responsibility for Vlakplaas people working in the areas? First Applicant had deposed to an affidavit which forms part of the record before us and basically confirmed its contents in his testimony. His version briefly summarised is to the effect that he is a member of both the Pan Africanist Congress ("PAC") as well as the Azanian People's Liberation ... MR COETZEE: Well I don't know, that was the way we used to talk in those days. Security people used to talk in those terms. MR KRUGER: Chairperson, all of this is hearsay, I was not present, I did not see it. These are things which the people who were there guarding with me, told me, I didn't see these things myself. On the alleged orders of persons whose names he was unable to give immediately (he also did not name them in his written application) he went with others on the 10th September 1993, to a predetermined location where they robbed two people of three firearms and ammunition. He said that he was in a ... Shabangu testified that he was an ANC Youth League supporter. He did not have personal knowledge of the deceased but he was aware of the rumours that the deceased was an informer. He stated that he was present at the ANC Youth League meeting which was held at a school where they also spoke ... The applicant was at the material times hereto a member of the Azanian Youth League (AYL) in Duduza and attached to the Pan Africanist Congress (PAC). He says that he was taught through the teachings of the PAC that white people were the cause of black people's misery and had taken the land. ... The further issue in dispute relates to the number of persons who had to be killed. De Kock testified that Nieuwoudt only referred to three persons who had to be killed, namely two members of the Port Elizabeth Security Police and an askari. The specific people were unknown to de Kock. ... DR RANDERA: Perhaps I am asking the same question but in a different way. You have told us what happened or what your understanding of your husband was, what happened to him, can you perhaps tell us about your husband because we don't know anything about him and I think people should know who your ... MRS TWALA: No, he just wrote the statement and thereafter I was called in by another attorney stating that that, that attorney has disappeared with other people's statements. So I was advised to take that statement and take further steps with it. |
