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people's warExplanation Showing 821 to 840 of 1003 First Page•Previous Page 38 •39 •40 •41 •42 •43 •44 •45 •46 Next Page•Last PageMR MORRISON: I was arrested. When I was arrested, the people who were behind would continue the struggle. MR BOSCH: Chairperson, that is what I heard after the time. I cannot say that it was correct, but I knew that there were people and weapons coming into the country. MR NGUBANE: What I was saying was that we launched the attack in the morning. I'm saying that because it was very early, I was collecting Sipiwe when he said the kombi that was attacked was the kombi that was coming from the meeting. What I was actually rectifying there was this, it was very ... I think it was a waste of taxpayers' money for them to assemble as many people as they did, when in fact as I say, we invited them to come and fetch Mr Maleka. Mr Mthembu had not seen those affidavits at that stage and we discussed it with him and it is obvious that he had to take instructions from his client and the matter stood down and he was informed that after he has taken instructions it might be necessary for us to call the people who made the ... The incident which gave rise to all the above applicants, was the killing of one Brigadier Andrew Molope (herein after referred to as "the deceased") in 1986 in Winterveld in the erstwhile Republic of Bophuthatswana. All four of the applicants were involved, in varying degrees, in the killing of ... At one stage during the early evening a delegation was sent to secure the attendance of Brigadier Gqozo at the meeting. According to the Applicants their intention was effectively to also hold Brigadier Gqozo once he arrived at the meeting and to compel him to step down as ruler. ... However in his viva voce evidence before us he stated that he wanted to kill the deceased inter alia, so as to intimidate ANC people into joining the IFP, because the deceased was brave and lead assaults and attacks on IFP supporters, because the deceased had told him he had made a vow to kill him ... Applicants treated the petrol attendants very shabbily during the operation. Not once did they mention that they were Apla operatives, there to repossess money for the benefit of the organization. Instead, their statement to the attendants was that they wanted money. When asked, under cross ... The applicant's evidence is that he, Derrick Skosana and one Solly Moroape attacked Shabangu's house on the instructions of his brother Joseph Nkuna. They were ordinary foot soldiers acting on his brother's orders. The brother was undoubtedly a senior person in the African National Congress. ... CHAIRPERSON: Certain problems have arisen in that it appears that the bundle of papers were only made available to all the parties including the Members of the Committee, last week. In the application papers the applicant makes out the case that what was done was done on behalf of the ANC and it ... "I was amongst the people who chased the deceased, Mr Moeng, from his house and poured petrol on him and set him alight although I could not get a chance to assault and burn him personally due to many people in front of me. However, I had the common purpose of killing the deceased ... Khumalo testified that he is currently serving a long term of imprisonment for two counts of murder, two of attempted murder and one of armed robbery for his participation in the Reservoir Hills armed robbery. He was also involved in other incidents where people were killed. The applicant and his colleague ran away and were being shot at. They left behind the pamphlets and a motor cycle. A while later, he returned to Road 8 in order to recover the pamphlets and the motorcycle. On his way there he met Xolani Muntu Mkhize and Robert Mngadi. They accompanied him to ... The applicant stated that he murdered the deceased because he received an instruction from the leader of the Orde van die Dood to kill a person. This would prove that he had the ability to kill and that he would therefore be an effective member of the Orde. The killing of the deceased was done as ... JUDGE DE JAGER: We could declare him a victim if the offence or delict was associated with a political objective. Can you people assure us of that supposition? It emerged from the evidence that the Applicant not only discussed the planning of attacks on military targets, he provided or arranged for the provision of the explosives and detonators used in the construction of car bombs. Unfortunately, no evidence was led before us as to what the ... The Northern Transvaal Security Branch under the command of the 4th Applicant obtained the assistance of Vlakplaas in their search for MK Operatives who were active in the killing of a number of people, including policemen, and other acts of terror. In all the cases of the robbery the targets were private individuals. They were not political targets. It is highly unlikely that a trained MK operative would attack innocent people and rob them to pursue a political objective. Also in Section 20(3)(f), one must look at the directness and ... CHAIRPERSON: Have you had an occasion of studying the application form as it stands before us, Mr Molohlanye? You know we don't want people to be shoddily represented. I must say I am a little upset that it doesn't look like this matter again has been properly prepared for presentation. |
