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people's warExplanation Showing 821 to 840 of 1003 First Page•Previous Page 38 •39 •40 •41 •42 •43 •44 •45 •46 Next Page•Last Page... with Mr Botha. They were not anxious to, when I say they, I must withdraw that, one of the two persons had been following proceedings, was fully aware of what was going on and he was a possibly implicated person, but he indicated that he did not want to participate in any way or to have his ... A meeting was called at the house of Applicant Ngobese (application 3480/96). The above allegations were discussed and the meeting of about 30 people decided to kill Mr Mthembu. An unknown number (but at least the six Applicants) proceeded to the deceased's house. The door of the house was ... It is clear that all the applicants acted in pursuance of a political objective which was within the bounds of the policies and strategies of the PAC, APLA and PASO. It was not their intention to cause injury to the people on the bus and the limpet mine appears to have exploded accidentally. The ... CHAIRPERSON: Did you have any in depth knowledge about Josini, apart from the rest of the people? At the relevant time he was a member of the Azanian People’s Organisation ("AZAPO"). He also served on the executive committee of the Azanian Youth Organisation ("AZANYO") and Azanian Student Movement ("AZASM"), the youth and student wings of AZAPO, respectively. He received military training ... The applicant further applies for amnesty in respect of assault on a number of people, during interrogations. He took an active part in some of the assaults by pinning the victim to the ground while he was being hit and in other cases he was a bystander who associated him with the assaults. He ... MR MABOTE: I made it clear in my application that I left them in the township, I left them with Comrade Sam and Comrade Lucky. Thereafter they took them to the stadium where all members of self defence unit handed over all their firearms. I was present at the stadium when they were handed over, ... You have said it all, the political motive, it is there, it is not strong enough. If it is there, it has not surfaced sufficiently for any of the people who listened to the applicant giving his evidence, to see. MR GOUWS: Yes, that's correct, he offered some training to these people and he was also given an AK47. MR BAKER: I had my service pistol with me, I also had my identity card with me, my police identity card, that was my part of the operation, was to move on the perimeter and try and keep people out of the target area. I had my identity card with me to use in case I should see people and just ... CHAIRPERSON: We welcome you and I will ask you to give your testimony freely. So that all the people inside this hall can hear you very well. I will ask one of the Commissioners to help you with the oath. When further questioned about what the deceased was doing at the time he was thrice shot; "I shot the deceased three times (after) he slapped me and I got frightened because I could see he had a gun on him and I saw on many times what a gun can do to people, especially when it was in the hands of ... Towards that end, perhaps I should start with what I've seen occurring just in the last sitting. We had - the former chap here was an askari, who I believed left the ANC because, by his own admission, he didn't necessarily participate in the physical beating, but maybe violated rights of ... Perhaps some people who are listening to you probably think it is a fairy tale that you are telling. But those who know the gravity of the struggle for liberation in this country, are aware that women suffered a lot in this country in the fight for liberation. ... of the community generally supported the ANC. The Applicant claims that at the relevant time he and his companions were members of the ANC and towards the end of October the ANC leadership relocated ANC supporters to Polla Park Squatter Camp in Thokoza. Polla Park was also engulfed in ... It was indeed one of the few occasions where the Committee was privileged to witness a moving reconciliation. We wish to thank all people involved. Because when he just came and collected him, collected her and he didn't tell where he was taking her to. And even after the death, he didn't come to report to us. We just heard that from other people. I am just wondering if you could just, to me and to everybody else, give us a picture of what was actualy happening on that campus, on that day. Was it that the police just came on and started attacking people without any provocation, or was there something else going that made the police came on ... ... vehemently denied that he ever gave any instructions to Applicant to assassinate Mr Songo. He indicated that he had no personal animosity towards Mr Songo who was one of his classmates at school. Approximately two weeks after he met Applicant, the latter approached him at the office ... CHAIRPERSON: I think we indicated 9 o'clock didn't we, to the other people. We'll adjourn till 9 o'clock tomorrow morning. |
