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people's warExplanation Showing 821 to 840 of 1003 First Page•Previous Page 38 •39 •40 •41 •42 •43 •44 •45 •46 Next Page•Last PageCHAIRPERSON: Yes Mr Webster, we'll be here at 9.30 tomorrow morning and there are people who are coming specifically for the matter that is set down tomorrow. Mr Pravine Gordon and Mr Lala? According to the evidence of Nygwanya, what had started off as a good relationship between himself and the applicant later changed because the applicant had a tendency to detain people without evidence and he also tended to misuse government moneys. MRS TABALAZA: We were so hurt about the verdict given. Even today we want to know who the people are who murdered Lungile. Lungile was brought in later, they did not want to bring his body, they just in his belongings. The child's father went there to find out if he cannot get the child, but ... MR MORRISON: I was arrested. When I was arrested, the people who were behind would continue the struggle. Dumisani shot the deceased on the back of his head and the applicant shot him in the leg. They searched him and found no weapon on his body. They took his briefcase; fired shots to scare people who were approaching the scene and they ran away. [10] In cross examination he was asked why he had not mentioned in his statement made on 13 November 1985 that he took part in the killing because of fear. He gave conflicting answers. He first said at a time of making the statement he did not recall this fact. When asked why he would recall ... ... stage he went to fetch a key at the back of the shop for one of the other shop assistants, whereafter he returned to the entrance. He then became aware of a noise coming from the back of the shop and saw Ndimande, armed with a firearm, struggling with the deceased. Edgar went to the assistance ... It is common cause that there was an ongoing political battle between the IFP hostel dwellers and the members of the Toaster Gang on one side and the ANC people living in Tembisa on the other. Consequently the ANC formed Self Defence Units to protect their supporters as well as the residents. ... CHAIRPERSON: Good morning everybody. I apologise for the slightly late start, but I am informed that the traffic on certain roads is very heavy and that caused a delay, getting certain people to the hearing. Any inconvenience is regretted. Yesterday I introduced the panel, we are starting some ... All four offences were committed in the process of a planned attack on the said police station. The applicants were all trained members of Umkhonto weSizwe (MK) the military wing of the African National Congress (ANC). They were trained in combat and arms in the Soviet Union and Angola. At the ... Ras informed them that Brigadier Stemmet had told him that he had information that a policeman in Hammanskraal was an ANC agent and that he was to be eliminated as he visited and was relaying information to the ANC in Zimbabwe that had in the past already led to the killing of some people there. ... MR GREYLING: During the arrest of Siphiwe Nyanda I was present. There were not enough people in the office and they were looking for persons to assist with the arrest. MR FLOYD: I had never met these people before, I did not know where they were. I then asked Colonel Joe Verster, he directed me to where their offices were. really was the bigger picture. Now you give evidence about the Mbokoto people taking you away on your own, torturing you, giving you a tough time, beating you up. You were a leader, you were chairman of the UDF branch there at Kwagga. We had a number of other witnesses today who talked about the ... MR DU PREEZ SMIT: Well we did find out that there was a vehicle that exploded there, that people were killed. I do not know how many and I do not know how many were injured, and that the hospital itself was damaged by this explosion. Although he might have used the vehicle for a political purpose, the persistent denial is a problem. We are not a Court of Appeal. Obviously the Magistrate disbelieved him, hence the conviction. We have turned down many such applications in the past, otherwise we would have opened the door for ... CHAIRPERSON: I think we must bear in mind that we're talking of something nine years ago and for people to remember precisely who was in what car at what stage of the journey, is ... Right, questions? MR KOOPEDI: The only sad part Chair is that Judge Motata's comments were not recorded as his mike was off and I believe it is important for us to note that it is indeed the Vanderbijl Square and not Vanderbijlpark which is a town in the Vaal. I would then say, Chairperson, that is the application ... The applicant's version before us is that he never entered the house in question. He says all the shots were fired from outside as he continuously moved from one spot to another,such as from door to window, shooting blindly. He says he never specifically aimed at any of the victims. That each ... CHAIRPERSON: Yes, I wanted to make everybody aware who is here, our life-span is really limited and it is our view and the considered view that we cannot allow postponements. Like we are here, we've got to finish everything here in Bloemfontein. We won't come back and should there be a matter ... |
