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people's warExplanation Showing 821 to 840 of 1003 First Page•Previous Page 38 •39 •40 •41 •42 •43 •44 •45 •46 Next Page•Last PageCHAIRPERSON: Good morning everybody. I apologise for the slightly late start, but I am informed that the traffic on certain roads is very heavy and that caused a delay, getting certain people to the hearing. Any inconvenience is regretted. Yesterday I introduced the panel, we are starting some ... MR MORRISON: I was arrested. When I was arrested, the people who were behind would continue the struggle. MRS NDEBELE: After I received the telegram people came from the ANC at Shell House. They said to me that Lucky has passed away. Then they said they will come to visit me, but up till now no one has shown up at my place. MR KHUMALO: I apologise to the people who lost their lives because of the political situation because what happened and what we did was because of the system of apartheid, not because we were there for personal gain. This happened to them because they were members of the IFP, an organisation that ... MRS TABALAZA: We were so hurt about the verdict given. Even today we want to know who the people are who murdered Lungile. Lungile was brought in later, they did not want to bring his body, they just in his belongings. The child's father went there to find out if he cannot get the child, but ... According to the evidence of Nygwanya, what had started off as a good relationship between himself and the applicant later changed because the applicant had a tendency to detain people without evidence and he also tended to misuse government moneys. [10] In cross examination he was asked why he had not mentioned in his statement made on 13 November 1985 that he took part in the killing because of fear. He gave conflicting answers. He first said at a time of making the statement he did not recall this fact. When asked why he would recall ... Dumisani shot the deceased on the back of his head and the applicant shot him in the leg. They searched him and found no weapon on his body. They took his briefcase; fired shots to scare people who were approaching the scene and they ran away. Applicants have testified that they knew that it was not ANC policy to carry out acts of robbery. They say that because they found themselves in a life and death situation they had not choice but to devise plans to protect their people. They also say that they were not acting out of malice or ... The applicant's version before us is that he never entered the house in question. He says all the shots were fired from outside as he continuously moved from one spot to another,such as from door to window, shooting blindly. He says he never specifically aimed at any of the victims. That each ... Ras informed them that Brigadier Stemmet had told him that he had information that a policeman in Hammanskraal was an ANC agent and that he was to be eliminated as he visited and was relaying information to the ANC in Zimbabwe that had in the past already led to the killing of some people there. ... MR GREYLING: During the arrest of Siphiwe Nyanda I was present. There were not enough people in the office and they were looking for persons to assist with the arrest. "Without proper authorization listened to conversations of target people such as Allan Boesak, Dr Nthato Motlana, Bishop Desmond Tutu, Halton Cheadle, etc. ... I was involved directly in this activity throughout my duties at Johannesburg Security Branch during 1982 - 1986." MR SIMANGA: Insp Mfene showed the dissatisfaction of the government, of the way the government was treating us as the police in the former Ciskei and the working conditions and the things that were happening such as killing of people. really was the bigger picture. Now you give evidence about the Mbokoto people taking you away on your own, torturing you, giving you a tough time, beating you up. You were a leader, you were chairman of the UDF branch there at Kwagga. We had a number of other witnesses today who talked about the ... CHAIRPERSON: I think we must bear in mind that we're talking of something nine years ago and for people to remember precisely who was in what car at what stage of the journey, is ... Right, questions? MR KOOPEDI: The only sad part Chair is that Judge Motata's comments were not recorded as his mike was off and I believe it is important for us to note that it is indeed the Vanderbijl Square and not Vanderbijlpark which is a town in the Vaal. I would then say, Chairperson, that is the application ... MR DU PREEZ SMIT: Well we did find out that there was a vehicle that exploded there, that people were killed. I do not know how many and I do not know how many were injured, and that the hospital itself was damaged by this explosion. MR FLOYD: I had never met these people before, I did not know where they were. I then asked Colonel Joe Verster, he directed me to where their offices were. CHAIRPERSON: Yes, I wanted to make everybody aware who is here, our life-span is really limited and it is our view and the considered view that we cannot allow postponements. Like we are here, we've got to finish everything here in Bloemfontein. We won't come back and should there be a matter ... |
