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people's warExplanation Showing 821 to 840 of 1003 First Page•Previous Page 38 •39 •40 •41 •42 •43 •44 •45 •46 Next Page•Last PageMR VERSTER: Chairperson, if I might put it as follows, we were Special Forces Headquarters with various operational bases in the Namibia environment and in South Africa. Some of the operatives lived in Phalaborwa, others in Zululand, others in Langebaan, some of them in Durban, and it was normal ... All right. You were shot coming from a rally and there were many people there. Were you ever charged for anything that happened on that day? Shall I repeat the question. You were shot by the police when you were coming from Steve Tshwete's rally. Did the police ever come to you and charge you ... I chased them away, that's where Moolman said to me, while we were watching television, that day, I could hear that these people were killed in Pietersburg and I realised that it was my son. He was with his friend Jacob Rapulo. After having shot him the case was handled by Sad Kachalia the ... The first applicant testified that he had been trained as an MK Soldier, both inside and outside South Africa and that at the time of the incidents under discussion he was the Commander of the second applicant and other members of an ANC cell which had been created in the Newcastle area. First ... During or about May 1984, the applicant met Sipho Xulu. Sipho Xulu had left the country in 1982 to go into exile. When Sipho Xulu came back, he was in the company of Lucky Payi and Dennis Mzamo Hadebe. Xulu advised the applicant that he was back in the country in order to recruit more people for ... CHAIRPERSON: Well being entirely selfish, I will first of all make a confession that the members of the Committee have been asked to have lunch with the IDASA people and a distinguished American guest, so it seems that whatever happens, we would probably have to stay here till two o'clock. Would ... This is an application for amnesty in terms of the provisions of Section 19 of the Promotion of National Unity and Reconciliation Act No. 34 of 1995 ("the Act"). The application relates to the death of Mziwonke "Pro" Jack, a high-profiled African National Congress ("ANC") member in the Western ... "to protect my people and to make sure that there was no mismanagement of funds belonging to the SDU members." On their own evidence they believed that Memela and his companions were trained "terrorists" armed with weapons and explosives, who had been responsible for the attack on Winnington Sabelo's family and who were en route to attack a black Counsellor. It is thus clear to us that the applicants ... Both Applicants, together with a number of other people, were later arrested and charged with the murder of the Deceased. The matter never went to trial as the charges were withdrawn due to the lack of evidence. CROSS-EXAMINATION BY MR DU PLESSIS: May I proceed Mr Chairman, thank you. Mr Goosen, the information that you had with regard to Morudi and the people that would have been in the house that night, do you agree with Mr Momberg's evidence as far as that is concerned, the question that I asked him? MR BOOYENS: Chairperson, with regard to Mr Kobus Kok, on page 30, I don't know if the people are ashamed to say that they were supporters of the National Party, because not one of the applicants do that. I don't know whether you find it necessary to recall him about that, but I would ... Coetzee states that other members ("co-handlers") reported to him that they were unhappy about the poor discipline of the deceased and his laxity with security. He says the deceased would also abuse state vehicles and on numerous occasions absented himself from work without permit. Coetzee ... CHAIRPERSON: Thank you. Any questions? No. I would like to thank you together with your sister. We hope that God will be on your side and give you the strength. Now we can clearly see that this freedom that we are having at the moment did not come easy. Especially concerning the youth for ... CHAIRPERSON: ...(inaudible). There are other matters involved in Mr Thusi's application, which do not involve the present parties and which I have not commented on, but I would urge that the papers are gone through carefully and if there are any other persons who should be notified or informed of ... MR VABAZA: The third applicant, Mr Chairperson and members, is Mabitana Mani. He is also amongst the five group of people. On the 10th October the Tembisa Police Station Barracks was similarly bombed. Three people sustained injuries. CHAIRPERSON: This has not been a hearing where there's been a great deal of conflicting evidence where one has to weigh up the evidence. There have been differences between various people as to who was at what meeting, who did precisely what but the picture of what happened is reasonably clear, ... ADV SANDI: You are going to tell us about these two people here. MR GILBERT: Those boers must be arrested. You can't just acquit guilty people like that who shot at our children. |
