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people's warExplanation Showing 841 to 860 of 1003 First Page•Previous Page 39 •40 •41 •42 •43 •44 •45 •46 •47 Next Page•Last PageMR VISSER: Yes. Yes, while we're on that point, Mr Chairman, Ms Thabethe has an impossible task, it seems, to bring matters forward. Perhaps the problem here is in the whole attempt to place matters for certain dates. It would seem and the present hearings do seem to be the best example of that, ... The applicant and his colleague ran away and were being shot at. They left behind the pamphlets and a motor cycle. A while later, he returned to Road 8 in order to recover the pamphlets and the motorcycle. On his way there he met Xolani Muntu Mkhize and Robert Mngadi. They accompanied him to ... At one stage during the early evening a delegation was sent to secure the attendance of Brigadier Gqozo at the meeting. According to the Applicants their intention was effectively to also hold Brigadier Gqozo once he arrived at the meeting and to compel him to step down as ruler. ... Dumisani shot the deceased on the back of his head and the applicant shot him in the leg. They searched him and found no weapon on his body. They took his briefcase; fired shots to scare people who were approaching the scene and they ran away. MR COETZEE: Well I don't know, that was the way we used to talk in those days. Security people used to talk in those terms. It is common cause that there was an ongoing political battle between the IFP hostel dwellers and the members of the Toaster Gang on one side and the ANC people living in Tembisa on the other. Consequently the ANC formed Self Defence Units to protect their supporters as well as the residents. ... CHAIRPERSON: Good morning everybody. I apologise for the slightly late start, but I am informed that the traffic on certain roads is very heavy and that caused a delay, getting certain people to the hearing. Any inconvenience is regretted. Yesterday I introduced the panel, we are starting some ... The applicant's version before us is that he never entered the house in question. He says all the shots were fired from outside as he continuously moved from one spot to another,such as from door to window, shooting blindly. He says he never specifically aimed at any of the victims. That each ... CHAIRPERSON: But definitely it can't be the same, I mean a discussion or an arrangement being made to abduct Mr Mahlangu and the one to abduct Miss Mahlangu, that cannot be the same. To me they are completely different. These are individuals with different political backgrounds from the evidence ... The further issue in dispute relates to the number of persons who had to be killed. De Kock testified that Nieuwoudt only referred to three persons who had to be killed, namely two members of the Port Elizabeth Security Police and an askari. The specific people were unknown to de Kock. ... In 1985 it was a very-very difficult time for many people. The township was besieged, search lights were shining in the streets, foot patrols, people werent allowed to come in and out - it was a very difficult time. Perhaps you can tell us what happened to your son during those circumstances. Shabangu testified that he was an ANC Youth League supporter. He did not have personal knowledge of the deceased but he was aware of the rumours that the deceased was an informer. He stated that he was present at the ANC Youth League meeting which was held at a school where they also spoke ... The applicant was at the material times hereto a member of the Azanian Youth League (AYL) in Duduza and attached to the Pan Africanist Congress (PAC). He says that he was taught through the teachings of the PAC that white people were the cause of black people's misery and had taken the land. ... MR FLOYD: I had never met these people before, I did not know where they were. I then asked Colonel Joe Verster, he directed me to where their offices were. "Without proper authorization listened to conversations of target people such as Allan Boesak, Dr Nthato Motlana, Bishop Desmond Tutu, Halton Cheadle, etc. ... I was involved directly in this activity throughout my duties at Johannesburg Security Branch during 1982 - 1986." Mhlambo testified that the deceased was then taken to the Chairperson of the ANC at Hlalakahle aarea, a certain Mr Mzolo, who is since deceased. During questioning of the deceased at Mzolos place, Mr Mzolo suggested that the questioning should be stopped to be continued on the following day. As ... Having carefully considered all of the evidence and material placed before us, we are satisfied that Applicant has made a full disclosure of all relevant facts and that the murder was an act associated with a political objective in accordance with the provisions of the Act. Even though the then ... Although he might have used the vehicles for a political purpose, the persistent denial os a problem. We are not a Court of Appeal. Obviously the Magistrate disbelieved him, hence the conviction. We have turned down many such applications in the past, otherwise we would have opened the door for ... MS MAYA: He was one of the people who were members of Congo at the time, but he was tortured or ill-treated in 1971. According to your statement he was arrested in 1971 and he was ill-treated by the police in Kambati. Can you please tell us how his condition was when he was released? CHAIRPERSON: Father Hufkie, we are grateful that you have come to share your experiences with the Commission. We are aware of the kind of humiliation that you suffered and as you know, many people who dared to oppose the system of apartheid were subjected to those kinds of experiences, and even ... |
