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people's warExplanation Showing 841 to 860 of 1003 First Page•Previous Page 39 •40 •41 •42 •43 •44 •45 •46 •47 Next Page•Last PageCoetzee states that other members ("co-handlers") reported to him that they were unhappy about the poor discipline of the deceased and his laxity with security. He says the deceased would also abuse state vehicles and on numerous occasions absented himself from work without permit. Coetzee ... CHAIRPERSON: This has not been a hearing where there's been a great deal of conflicting evidence where one has to weigh up the evidence. There have been differences between various people as to who was at what meeting, who did precisely what but the picture of what happened is reasonably clear, ... The offences were committed during an incident which occurred on 5th March 1993. On that day the two applicants and one other person, who's name was given as Siphiwe Zondi, ambushed a minibus and raked its occupants with automatic weapons. As a result of this attack the deceased and the other ... The applicant advanced as reasons for the killing of the deceased that the latter was a policeman and that some of the policemen cooperated with the Three Million Gang, a declared enemy of the ANC. This animosity between the ANC and the Three Million Gang resulted in numerous killings of their ... MR GOUWS: Yes, that's correct, he offered some training to these people and he was also given an AK47. ... of the community generally supported the ANC. The Applicant claims that at the relevant time he and his companions were members of the ANC and towards the end of October the ANC leadership relocated ANC supporters to Polla Park Squatter Camp in Thokoza. Polla Park was also engulfed in ... It was indeed one of the few occasions where the Committee was privileged to witness a moving reconciliation. We wish to thank all people involved. You have said it all, the political motive, it is there, it is not strong enough. If it is there, it has not surfaced sufficiently for any of the people who listened to the applicant giving his evidence, to see. MR MABOTE: I made it clear in my application that I left them in the township, I left them with Comrade Sam and Comrade Lucky. Thereafter they took them to the stadium where all members of self defence unit handed over all their firearms. I was present at the stadium when they were handed over, ... Perhaps some people who are listening to you probably think it is a fairy tale that you are telling. But those who know the gravity of the struggle for liberation in this country, are aware that women suffered a lot in this country in the fight for liberation. CHAIRPERSON: We welcome you and I will ask you to give your testimony freely. So that all the people inside this hall can hear you very well. I will ask one of the Commissioners to help you with the oath. MR BAKER: I had my service pistol with me, I also had my identity card with me, my police identity card, that was my part of the operation, was to move on the perimeter and try and keep people out of the target area. I had my identity card with me to use in case I should see people and just ... As a result of the precarious financial position, the matter was discussed with the chief of MK and it was decided that alternative means, including robbery, in order to obtain the required finance, should be employed. The proviso was that there should be no loss of life and the target should be ... The applicants seek amnesty in respect of the robbery of a shop, the Pep Store in Bothabelo on the 17th of February 1992. It is clear from the information placed before us that although one of the persons were armed, no violence was used against the people in the store and they requested money, ... ... vehemently denied that he ever gave any instructions to Applicant to assassinate Mr Songo. He indicated that he had no personal animosity towards Mr Songo who was one of his classmates at school. Approximately two weeks after he met Applicant, the latter approached him at the office ... The applicant further applies for amnesty in respect of assault on a number of people, during interrogations. He took an active part in some of the assaults by pinning the victim to the ground while he was being hit and in other cases he was a bystander who associated him with the assaults. He ... At the relevant time he was a member of the Azanian People’s Organisation ("AZAPO"). He also served on the executive committee of the Azanian Youth Organisation ("AZANYO") and Azanian Student Movement ("AZASM"), the youth and student wings of AZAPO, respectively. He received military training ... I am just wondering if you could just, to me and to everybody else, give us a picture of what was actualy happening on that campus, on that day. Was it that the police just came on and started attacking people without any provocation, or was there something else going that made the police came on ... Because when he just came and collected him, collected her and he didn't tell where he was taking her to. And even after the death, he didn't come to report to us. We just heard that from other people. MS LOCKHAT: Chairperson, just for the sake of people, for those matters that are set down for next week, for the sake of Mr Jan Wagener who's involved in some of those applications, I just want to place on record that according to our schedule for next week, that all those matters will be postponed ... |
