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people's warExplanation Showing 901 to 920 of 1003 First Page•Previous Page 42 •43 •44 •45 •46 •47 •48 •49 •50 Next Page•Last PageCoetzee states that other members ("co-handlers") reported to him that they were unhappy about the poor discipline of the deceased and his laxity with security. He says the deceased would also abuse state vehicles and on numerous occasions absented himself from work without permit. Coetzee ... CHAIRPERSON: Well being entirely selfish, I will first of all make a confession that the members of the Committee have been asked to have lunch with the IDASA people and a distinguished American guest, so it seems that whatever happens, we would probably have to stay here till two o'clock. Would ... On their own evidence they believed that Memela and his companions were trained "terrorists" armed with weapons and explosives, who had been responsible for the attack on Winnington Sabelo's family and who were en route to attack a black Counsellor. It is thus clear to us that the applicants ... CROSS-EXAMINATION BY MR DU PLESSIS: May I proceed Mr Chairman, thank you. Mr Goosen, the information that you had with regard to Morudi and the people that would have been in the house that night, do you agree with Mr Momberg's evidence as far as that is concerned, the question that I asked him? MR BOOYENS: Chairperson, with regard to Mr Kobus Kok, on page 30, I don't know if the people are ashamed to say that they were supporters of the National Party, because not one of the applicants do that. I don't know whether you find it necessary to recall him about that, but I would ... Both Applicants, together with a number of other people, were later arrested and charged with the murder of the Deceased. The matter never went to trial as the charges were withdrawn due to the lack of evidence. And that’s signed by dr Van Heerden. I would also like it placed on record that a number of people from the community have come to us and said that dr Van Heerden is known in this community as a very caring and compassionate doctor. MR NYAKAMA: I was a secretary in our section, that is Lusaka-A. That is, I was a SANCO secretary. Our duties included listening to people's complaints and we also sat at the SANCO central level where we represented people's complaints. CROSS-EXAMINATION BY MR VISSER: Mr Snyders, page 232, you state, or let me put it to you like this, Colonel De Kock said that he asked Brigadier Erasmus what would happen if policemen were to arrive. He said, "Shoot them dead". What would happen if members of the public arrived there? He said, ... MR SIPHO: Okay, and is it true that later that afternoon, you were part of a group of people that accosted the deceased and began assaulting her? Many people lost their children and many children lost their parents. We therefore thank you that you have come to share your pain with us and we also promise that we are with you at heart, thank you. CHAIRPERSON: Good afternoon everybody. We were to start today with the application of Mr Richardson which was postponed at the end of last year to continue with the same. I must apologise that we have experienced hiccups in the process that the latest is before I go to what happened first is that ... So Chairperson, I will submit that these people were not disowned by the ANC, they were doing exactly what the ANC wanted to see happening. Therefore they fall within the ambit. The applicant was a member of Special Operations of Umkhonto weSizwe, the Military wing of the African National Congress (the ANC). He received extensive military training abroad. In 1991 he was instructed by the army commander, Mr Joe Modise to establish Self Defence Units in order to protect ... MR FLORES: One of the applicants who already testified was Mr Tait. There were one or two people from the Task Force, I can't recall names. The Applicant confirmed the evidence given by the above-mentioned Applicants and testified that he, at the time a constable, operated under the orders of Captain Hechter. The facts, briefly stated are that the deceased allegedly was a member of a cell of ANC activists, lead by Sefola, which ... CHAIRPERSON: Mr Ngqunge you are one of the persons referred by the previous witness, not so, as being part of a group of people who embarked on these ventures. Is that correct? This accorded to a large extent with the evidence he gave before us when he said the purpose of the attack was to promote their organisation and to take revenge against their enemies. he talked of the attack on his group which was relaxing at Gumede's house and the cars subsequent return to ... MR RICHARD: By way of information, how many people entered into this particular police station? [indistinct] just yet. I just want to thank you very much for coming and to hope that you will feel better as a result of having talked to us about the very bad experience that you had when you were in detention and we ask that people should treat those experiences with respect and understanding. ... |