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people's warExplanation Showing 961 to 980 of 1003 First Page•Previous Page 43 •44 •45 •46 •47 •48 •49 •50 •51 Next Page•Last PageMR COETZEE: Well I don't know, that was the way we used to talk in those days. Security people used to talk in those terms. MR MANTHATA: It is cruel to experience that in a family. It is very hurtful. And it is also very hurting when that comes the way it approached to you. You didn't know how your child died or who killed him. We might say it was the police who killed him because by that time people were from the ... MR MOPEDI: And the people that you were fighting, that you were shooting at, who were they, were those people IFP people? It is common cause that no-one was injured in the attack and that extensive damage was caused to the homestead. The applicants said that they took care to ensure that they fired in such a way as to avoid people in the homestead being injured. CHAIRPERSON: But definitely it can't be the same, I mean a discussion or an arrangement being made to abduct Mr Mahlangu and the one to abduct Miss Mahlangu, that cannot be the same. To me they are completely different. These are individuals with different political backgrounds from the evidence ... Norman Peterson left home in 1982 and we never heard from him since 1982. And I heard from his friends that Norman left the country but they didn’t know where. And we went about asking people and he never serviced and in 1987 the late Ronnie said that he had been shot and thereafter - after that ... Eugene Alexander de Kock ("De Kock") testified that the SB at Germiston had requested Vlakplaas to assist them and the Witbank SB with the detection of suspected MK members. De Kock called in the Task Force. A briefing session was held at the SB offices in Germiston. The information at ... The first attack on UDF supporters was on the 25 December 1985 and this was followed by a series of attacks which led to the death of some of the UDF supporters inter alia Joel Mputhi, Bhungane Radebe and Richard Twala. The Applicants state that in the circumstances they had no choice but to ... MR TAKA: That bomb in Viljoenskroon cost bodily injury to at least three people, Margaret Malinga who has lost her hearing, Steven Semelo and Andries Semelo. Is it not possible that if you had placed the bomb further from the shacks it would have cause less injuries because it was then closer to ... MR SIBANYONI: The problem we are saddled with, Mr Kruger, is that the Act envisages that people will be acting in authority of publicly known organisations or parties etcetera, now having a letter from the CP, which to an extent indicates that they never advocated a policy of, I would say, carrying ... It is more convenient to deal with the position of the Second Applicant who is directly involved in the incident before considering the case of First Applicant. According to the evidence the Mankwanyaneni Reserve was experiencing a violent political conflict involving members and supporters of the ... It is common cause that there was an ongoing political battle between the IFP hostel dwellers and the ANC people living in the nearby township. The ANC thus formed Self Defence Units (SDU ) to protect their supporters as well as the residents. This they did because the South African ... It was put to applicant that evidence had been led that by 1993 levels of violence at Ermelo had significantly dwindled and that there was no more fighting there. He explained that although violence had generally subsided, in his area which he referred to as the extension where Black Cats were ... The applicant testified that as Chief of Staff his duty was to give orders to the operatives to infiltrate the Republic of South Africa and recruit sympathetic members of the community to join MK. These people were then trained by Mapnya and Toka and participated in military activities in ... At the time in question political violence was rife in the Mpumalanga area. The violence, which involved supporters of the IFP on the one side and supporters of the ANC on the other, was on-going and resulted in many people being killed and injured and much property being destroyed. MR KOOPEDI: The only sad part Chair is that Judge Motata's comments were not recorded as his mike was off and I believe it is important for us to note that it is indeed the Vanderbijl Square and not Vanderbijlpark which is a town in the Vaal. I would then say, Chairperson, that is the application ... MR DU PREEZ SMIT: Well we did find out that there was a vehicle that exploded there, that people were killed. I do not know how many and I do not know how many were injured, and that the hospital itself was damaged by this explosion. really was the bigger picture. Now you give evidence about the Mbokoto people taking you away on your own, torturing you, giving you a tough time, beating you up. You were a leader, you were chairman of the UDF branch there at Kwagga. We had a number of other witnesses today who talked about the ... CHAIRPERSON: I think we must bear in mind that we're talking of something nine years ago and for people to remember precisely who was in what car at what stage of the journey, is ... Right, questions? Although he might have used the vehicle for a political purpose, the persistent denial is a problem. We are not a Court of Appeal. Obviously the Magistrate disbelieved him, hence the conviction. We have turned down many such applications in the past, otherwise we would have opened the door for ... |
