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people's warExplanation Showing 961 to 980 of 1003 First Page•Previous Page 43 •44 •45 •46 •47 •48 •49 •50 •51 Next Page•Last Page They had so many photographs of dead people with what seemed to be bullet wounds on the foreheads, they used to bring that to me very often at night. Maybe they thought I would be scared by that. However, in his viva voce evidence before us, he stated that he wanted to kill the deceased inter alia so as to intimidate ANC people into joining the IFP, because the deceased was brave and led assaults and attacks on IFP supporters, and also because the deceased had told him he had made a vow to ... MS PATEL: Alright. Given that there were nine people there and that the premises were an average size, it's strange that one person was allowed to escape, not so? MR BOOYENS: Just to clarify certain aspects, Mr du Toit. There may be the perception in the minds of some people that the Technical Division of the Security Branch was only involved in offensive actions, such as for example this modification of weaponry, in this case and in other cases and so ... As stated above, two people were killed during the robbery, both of whom were bank employees and two people were shot and injured. Four people were robbed of personal items and three other bank employees who had money belonging to the bank in their custody were robbed of cash in the amount of R28 ... Mr Moele further testified that he received information about the time, and the procedure followed, when salary payments were made by the Transvaal Galvanising Company. He commanded Simphiwe Mkhuno, Thobile Nzolo, Magaule Toloki and Roundy Moboa to accompany him. The applicant and Thobile Nzolo ... The applicant was a member of a group of people in the district in which he resided which group was established to defend the residents thereof. Mokoena's response was he was referring to the leaders as people who knew of the activities of the gang, and knew that the ANC Youth League members were victims of these attacks. ... their shotguns. The group fled and applicant and Geldenhuys were unable to effect any arrests. At a later stage during the evening they became aware of a motor vehicle which transported what appeared to be an injured person from the township. Because they were in fear of their lives, ... All the applications comply with the requirements of the Act; the Applicants have made full disclosure of all the material facts relevant to their actions and the acts for which amnesty is sought are acts associated with a political objective. What the Applicants aimed at by preventing screening ... MR HAMMOND: Chairperson, while we were busy with discussions regarding how we would penetrate the building mention was made of a rope which we were to use. I climbed many ropes in my life but there are a number of people who don't know how to do that and it was quite high to the basement going ... And that’s signed by dr Van Heerden. I would also like it placed on record that a number of people from the community have come to us and said that dr Van Heerden is known in this community as a very caring and compassionate doctor. During 1989 the Applicant assisted in transporting arms from Namibia to Vlakplaas. The Applicant understood the reason to have been to prevent the arms from falling into the hands of SWAPO (the South West Africa People's Organisation). He is unable to state whether the weapons were at that ... FURTHER EXAMINATION BY MR BOOYENS: Mr Kok, you have already given evidence in this application and in your evidence you mentioned that you were present with the people from Vlakplaas when the cassette player was bought along with the earphones, is that correct? MRS MTSWENI: I do not believe that it was a natural death. He was always undergoing treatment and I think there’s some substance that was coming out of his mouth. I think this was a direct result of the attack by the Inkatha people six previous years. Both Applicants, together with a number of other people, were later arrested and charged with the murder of the Deceased. The matter never went to trial as the charges were withdrawn due to the lack of evidence. On their own evidence they believed that Memela and his companions were trained "terrorists" armed with weapons and explosives, who had been responsible for the attack on Winnington Sabelo's family and who were en route to attack a black Counsellor. It is thus clear to us that the applicants ... CHAIRPERSON: Well being entirely selfish, I will first of all make a confession that the members of the Committee have been asked to have lunch with the IDASA people and a distinguished American guest, so it seems that whatever happens, we would probably have to stay here till two o'clock. Would ... MR BOOYENS: Chairperson, with regard to Mr Kobus Kok, on page 30, I don't know if the people are ashamed to say that they were supporters of the National Party, because not one of the applicants do that. I don't know whether you find it necessary to recall him about that, but I would ... CROSS-EXAMINATION BY MR DU PLESSIS: May I proceed Mr Chairman, thank you. Mr Goosen, the information that you had with regard to Morudi and the people that would have been in the house that night, do you agree with Mr Momberg's evidence as far as that is concerned, the question that I asked him? |
