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people's warExplanation Showing 961 to 980 of 1003 First Page•Previous Page 43 •44 •45 •46 •47 •48 •49 •50 •51 Next Page•Last PageFURTHER EXAMINATION BY MR BOOYENS: Mr Kok, you have already given evidence in this application and in your evidence you mentioned that you were present with the people from Vlakplaas when the cassette player was bought along with the earphones, is that correct? MRS MTSWENI: I do not believe that it was a natural death. He was always undergoing treatment and I think there’s some substance that was coming out of his mouth. I think this was a direct result of the attack by the Inkatha people six previous years. The lawyer of the accused just talked and thereafter and the Magistrate although said but the interpreter told me that these people were found not guilty. The one thing that hurt me my witnesses were not there, my lawyer was not there. The doctor didn’t give his statement. I just heard that the ... The applicant testified that as a result of the instructions received he then threw a handgrenade at the house of Mr Mahaule during the night of 27th April 1980. An explosion followed and the property was damaged. It was not his intention to kill anybody and that was the reason why he used a low ... MR HATTINGH: Yes, yes, that's all I'm trying to put on record, that the string and the wax might have been applied in the post office and not by the people who prepared the package. When questioned about the group of people who were allegedly present at the time of the killing, the applicant vehemently denied their presence and called it a "blue lie". Only later after much cross-examination he conceded their presence and rather unconvincingly explained that he did not want to ... the persons who guarded the entrance and searched people who entered the tavern. He was not there when the deceased refused to be searched but was aware of it at the time of the incident since he had been so informed by his comrades. He also knew first hand of the deceased’s refusal to be ... MR KRUGER: Chairperson, all of this is hearsay, I was not present, I did not see it. These are things which the people who were there guarding with me, told me, I didn't see these things myself. On the day in question, Applicant and his fellow SDU members were patrolling the township in defence of members of the community against attacks from the contending forces of the Inkatha Freedom Party ("IFP"). They had earlier received information from a source within the police that the IFP ... MR MANTHATA: It is cruel to experience that in a family. It is very hurtful. And it is also very hurting when that comes the way it approached to you. You didn't know how your child died or who killed him. We might say it was the police who killed him because by that time people were from the ... MR CORNELIUS: Did you have knowledge that commanders in certain areas had to take responsibility for Vlakplaas people working in the areas? First Applicant had deposed to an affidavit which forms part of the record before us and basically confirmed its contents in his testimony. His version briefly summarised is to the effect that he is a member of both the Pan Africanist Congress ("PAC") as well as the Azanian People's Liberation ... MR COETZEE: Well I don't know, that was the way we used to talk in those days. Security people used to talk in those terms. On the alleged orders of persons whose names he was unable to give immediately (he also did not name them in his written application) he went with others on the 10th September 1993, to a predetermined location where they robbed two people of three firearms and ammunition. He said that he was in a ... ... was forthcoming. It is not clear how many people were murdered, who they were and on who attempted murders were executed. No confirmation came forward that the applicant was indeed a member of the PAC acting on instructions or with the approval of one of their ... Shabangu testified that he was an ANC Youth League supporter. He did not have personal knowledge of the deceased but he was aware of the rumours that the deceased was an informer. He stated that he was present at the ANC Youth League meeting which was held at a school where they also spoke ... The applicant was at the material times hereto a member of the Azanian Youth League (AYL) in Duduza and attached to the Pan Africanist Congress (PAC). He says that he was taught through the teachings of the PAC that white people were the cause of black people's misery and had taken the land. ... The further issue in dispute relates to the number of persons who had to be killed. De Kock testified that Nieuwoudt only referred to three persons who had to be killed, namely two members of the Port Elizabeth Security Police and an askari. The specific people were unknown to de Kock. ... In 1985 it was a very-very difficult time for many people. The township was besieged, search lights were shining in the streets, foot patrols, people weren’t allowed to come in and out - it was a very difficult time. Perhaps you can tell us what happened to your son during those circumstances. MR MOTHUPI: At that time they were using, policemen were using teargas because students used old vehicles to block the roads. Some prevented people from going to work. It was during those violent times. |
