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people's warExplanation Showing 961 to 980 of 1003 First Page•Previous Page 43 •44 •45 •46 •47 •48 •49 •50 •51 Next Page•Last PageCROSS-EXAMINATION BY MR VISSER: Mr Snyders, page 232, you state, or let me put it to you like this, Colonel De Kock said that he asked Brigadier Erasmus what would happen if policemen were to arrive. He said, "Shoot them dead". What would happen if members of the public arrived there? He said, ... MR SIBEKO: The picture that I have now is that the rest of the people who were around, did nothing but Makasonke is the one who meted out the punishment, is that a correct picture? ... however we are of the view that all those who took part in the preparation and posting of the device knowing it was a bomb must have been aware of the danger of such a device exploding and accidentally killing or injuring people in the vicinity. It had happened to a previous parcel ... On their own evidence they believed that Memela and his companions were trained "terrorists" armed with weapons and explosives, who had been responsible for the attack on Winnington Sabelo's family and who were en route to attack a black Counsellor. It is thus clear to us that the applicants ... CHAIRPERSON: Well being entirely selfish, I will first of all make a confession that the members of the Committee have been asked to have lunch with the IDASA people and a distinguished American guest, so it seems that whatever happens, we would probably have to stay here till two o'clock. Would ... CHAIRPERSON: Ms Patel, can we again implore your Department to ensure that when matters are set down, they have been fully investigated and very ripe for a hearing in order to avoid matters being postponed only when we are here in a venue and at great costs I think to the people who are attending ... MR SHANE: Was your name also mentioned amongst the people who went to rob firearms at the Kliprivier police station? The applicant testified that he was a member of the Soweto Youth Congress affiliated to the UDF as well as a member of M.K. He was trained by Dube to whom we have referred to earlier and we will refer to him by name further on in this decision. During 1987 supporters of the liberation movements ... MR KOPEDI: If I may, Honourable Chairperson, I'm going to ask for a postponement of this matter sine die. The reasons are that all the applicants are not here as we speak and also the victim, there is one victim in this matter, the victim is not here and basically we did not have any application ... All right. You were shot coming from a rally and there were many people there. Were you ever charged for anything that happened on that day? Shall I repeat the question. You were shot by the police when you were coming from Steve Tshwete's rally. Did the police ever come to you and charge you ... The Leader of Evidence informed us that most of the people injured in the incidents forming the subject matter of the hearing had been traced and had been notified of the hearing. These people have indicated that they did not wish to attend these proceedings and none did so. The applicant testified that as a result of the instructions received he then threw a handgrenade at the house of Mr Mahaule during the night of 27th April 1980. An explosion followed and the property was damaged. It was not his intention to kill anybody and that was the reason why he used a low ... MR HATTINGH: Yes, yes, that's all I'm trying to put on record, that the string and the wax might have been applied in the post office and not by the people who prepared the package. On the night of the 7th July 1991, the residents on the farm noticed a group of persons coming towards the farm. These people entered the farm and this resulted in them being chased. One of the trespasses was caught, beaten and killed. Shortly thereafter two figures were noticed going into one of ... These factors resulted in the Applicant, amongst others, deciding to burn down House No. 256 in his street. The house was owned by one Mr Zwane, whom Applicant had never seen at the house and who let the house to tenants. These tenants were known to be IFP members, who were often seen attending ... Section 20(2) of the Act not only requires that the act in respect of which amnesty is sought, be associated with a political objective, but also that such act should also have been "advised, planned, directed, commanded, ordered or committed ... by" an applicant who should in turn fall under one ... MS CRICHTON: It seems that there were many people who came out of prison, out of detention who were coughing blood. Why do you think that was? Well if you look around at what we've had here, half a dozen people. That purpose is not being achieved by having large halls in Durban, a long way away from where these people live and I would ask you, Mr Prior, please to talk to whoever arranges the meetings with a view to, these matters that ... The offences were committed during an incident which occurred on 5th March 1993. On that day the two applicants and one other person, who's name was given as Siphiwe Zondi, ambushed a minibus and raked its occupants with automatic weapons. As a result of this attack the deceased and the other ... It was proposed to him that he become a "double agent" whereby he would inform the police of plans, identities of people and where they could be found and so forth. Despite initial resistance, he eventually agreed to do so. As a result, according to Du Plessis, certain confidential and important ... |
