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people's warExplanation Showing 981 to 1000 of 1003 First Page•Previous Page 43 •44 •45 •46 •47 •48 •49 •50 •51 Next Page•Last PageAlthough he might have used the vehicles for a political purpose, the persistent denial os a problem. We are not a Court of Appeal. Obviously the Magistrate disbelieved him, hence the conviction. We have turned down many such applications in the past, otherwise we would have opened the door for ... MR KLOPPER: From that point onwards, Snor and I went back to the Verdrag training area, to the administrative base and we had a few drinks with the people there and thanked them for the use of the farm and handed the keys back, and from that point onwards we went back to Pretoria. I think it was ... ... we are all liberated presently, you will feel proud about your child who was also part of the struggle, because we know everybody was going to forward and looking forward to this liberation. Your son paid the price and I am sure everybody is part of the people who are being thanked for what has ... The applicant's version before us is that he never entered the house in question. He says all the shots were fired from outside as he continuously moved from one spot to another,such as from door to window, shooting blindly. He says he never specifically aimed at any of the victims. That each ... CHAIRPERSON: Good morning everybody. I apologise for the slightly late start, but I am informed that the traffic on certain roads is very heavy and that caused a delay, getting certain people to the hearing. Any inconvenience is regretted. Yesterday I introduced the panel, we are starting some ... MR MOTHUPI: At that time they were using, policemen were using teargas because students used old vehicles to block the roads. Some prevented people from going to work. It was during those violent times. In 1985 it was a very-very difficult time for many people. The township was besieged, search lights were shining in the streets, foot patrols, people weren’t allowed to come in and out - it was a very difficult time. Perhaps you can tell us what happened to your son during those circumstances. Shabangu testified that he was an ANC Youth League supporter. He did not have personal knowledge of the deceased but he was aware of the rumours that the deceased was an informer. He stated that he was present at the ANC Youth League meeting which was held at a school where they also spoke ... After the ousting of the Sebe regime in Ciskei through a military coup, the military government headed by Brigadier Gqozo propounded the replacement of the headmen system with democratically elected civic structures. This move was widely welcomed by the people of the Ciskei. At a later stage and ... ... was forthcoming. It is not clear how many people were murdered, who they were and on who attempted murders were executed. No confirmation came forward that the applicant was indeed a member of the PAC acting on instructions or with the approval of one of their ... the persons who guarded the entrance and searched people who entered the tavern. He was not there when the deceased refused to be searched but was aware of it at the time of the incident since he had been so informed by his comrades. He also knew first hand of the deceased’s refusal to be ... MR KRUGER: Chairperson, all of this is hearsay, I was not present, I did not see it. These are things which the people who were there guarding with me, told me, I didn't see these things myself. On the alleged orders of persons whose names he was unable to give immediately (he also did not name them in his written application) he went with others on the 10th September 1993, to a predetermined location where they robbed two people of three firearms and ammunition. He said that he was in a ... The applicant was at the material times hereto a member of the Azanian Youth League (AYL) in Duduza and attached to the Pan Africanist Congress (PAC). He says that he was taught through the teachings of the PAC that white people were the cause of black people's misery and had taken the land. ... The further issue in dispute relates to the number of persons who had to be killed. De Kock testified that Nieuwoudt only referred to three persons who had to be killed, namely two members of the Port Elizabeth Security Police and an askari. The specific people were unknown to de Kock. ... It is common cause that no-one was injured in the attack and that extensive damage was caused to the homestead. The applicants said that they took care to ensure that they fired in such a way as to avoid people in the homestead being injured. CHAIRPERSON: But definitely it can't be the same, I mean a discussion or an arrangement being made to abduct Mr Mahlangu and the one to abduct Miss Mahlangu, that cannot be the same. To me they are completely different. These are individuals with different political backgrounds from the evidence ... It is common cause that there was an ongoing political battle between the IFP hostel dwellers and the members of the Toaster Gang on one side and the ANC people living in Tembisa on the other. Consequently the ANC formed Self Defence Units to protect their supporters as well as the residents. ... "Without proper authorization listened to conversations of target people such as Allan Boesak, Dr Nthato Motlana, Bishop Desmond Tutu, Halton Cheadle, etc. ... I was involved directly in this activity throughout my duties at Johannesburg Security Branch during 1982 - 1986." MR FLOYD: I had never met these people before, I did not know where they were. I then asked Colonel Joe Verster, he directed me to where their offices were. |
