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people's warExplanation I think it was Cecil Msotho who I saw first and he described the tail end of the shootout in which opposite the dormitory we were in, under a gum tree, police had walked up to a guy, to one of the people they had shot, and had in fact fired a bullet into him while he was prostrate on the ground. I believe a person who killed so cold-bloodedly, I believe something must be done about him because it’s innocent people, innocent people in the street. He didn’t care who they were. ... leg and truth first as always. Are we really, have we really been getting to the truth in this process? // First of all congratulations on your award. We have certainly done that. We’ve heard the stories of victims and survivors. We were worried that we were not in fact getting the accounts ... ‘Good evening. A woman was killed in one of two bomb explosions on the East Rand today. She died in the Johannesburg Hospital a short while ago. At least 57 people were injured in the explosions believed to have been caused by limpet mines. One blast took place in a packed restaurant in the ... I agree with him, if we could have positive ways of doing it like Mandela walking out of jail which is taking us a step further instead of going backwards, because, yes we have to live with our past but if we’re going that backward we’re going nowhere. // It is a statement by the nation to ... I think with Magoo’s, you know we had a certain philosophy – after every activity that we did, after every action we would tell ourselves that it never happened, it was just a nightmare – it never happened. And you would sort of conscientise yourself to deaden that memory. It was a horrible ... One small question, when you accept I think moral responsibility, what does that mean? // As I understand it I can’t run away from those occasions where somebody as a result of my action and as a result of misunderstanding my words, committed an offense. I am morally obliged to stand by him and ... I tend to block it out. I talk about it at the hearing. I go home, the normality of a family life, the fact that I still have to be a mother, a wife, helps me to deal with the fact that I am not a super human being, I’m an ordinary person. But I don’t sleep very well, so I’ll read till the ... Alright, you want to go back to… // No simply I think the George Bizos example’s good, also for the Biko killers. We heard these probing questions and unlike the original so-called inquest where half the stuff couldn’t be brought out, at least the public… and I take Herman’s point that it ... ‘Winnie Mandela & The Missing Witness’ // February 1990, a moment the world had waited for. After nearly 30 years in jail Nelson Mandela was free, his wife Winnie by his side. Icons of the freedom struggle, partners in a great love story, their destiny was to set their people free. ... And these people for me, I felt that even at the age of seven, I was losing my friends. People disappeared in the night, you never saw them afterwards, and you would go to school one morning and find that your friend is not there anymore. You know, the house is gone. I mean, the roads here, we ... Siphiwo Mtimkulu was the charismatic leader of the Congress of Students in Port Elizabeth in 1980. In May 1981 he was detained by the security police and only released five months later. // He admitted that he was ill. I wanted to know what was wrong with him. He stated that he had an excruciating ... Myself with my axe, I’d say after the others had fired and had run out of bullets, Michael in particular Rooivark. Some people were still moving; that is the ones that were shot. Ntjebo then instructed that we should finish them off and I hit the ones who were still moving. I was only ... Now so many things have been taken away from the oppressed people. Number one, land, it was just taken away and they became landless, their stock was taken away and all their possessions were taken away, even their self respect was taken away. So those people therefore that took that away, they ... I became known, especially in the Western Cape, as the person to contact if cadres got injured or people were in danger in some kind of way. As you know many people couldn’t go to hospitals because they were at risk of being arrested. So, my little house became a little hospital or clinic and ... I had gone there to shoot any living thing. It was my aim to shoot anybody within the tavern // The rifle grenade that was fired in by Mr. Madasi, why did that have wire nails either glued or fixed to the head of the rifle grenade. Can you explain that to us? // We decided to make it so, so that as ... The TRC is the only forum with some credibility and acceptability available to us in which we can publicly apologise to all those who had been hurt by the travesties of the past. It is the most effective way available to us which we can use to offer help and healing to those who had committed ... Is it correct that the people that beat Stompie were Mrs. Mandela, Katiza, Slash and yourself? // Yes, but there are others. Everybody who was there participated as well as the other members of the Mandela United Football Club. The intention was not to kill him brutally, it was to make the whole thing appear … it was to simulate robbery, but unfortunately on the scene of crime certain things develop that you don’t expect. Mxenge’s physical strength was undermined, but when he was stabbed, he stood up and he fought. ... In the morning you would wake up and see a soldier in front of your house with a gun. The whole township was surrounded by the soldiers. This made people to be angry. // We are injured; we have wounds inside because of what they have done to us as black people. They were killing us. // Those who ... |
