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people's warExplanation I do not know if he made a deal. I wouldn’t know. You see, I’m not a politician. Quite frankly, when I understood that there had been an intervention by him I was on leave and I was sick and I was not here. But I understood that he was doing so at the request of the minister of safety and ... One of these Defence Force people, who later became known to me during the court case as a Mr. Law shouted to us and confirmed that they had just come from the area where the shooting incident had taken place and he also said, here are the bloody dogs that killed the policemen. In the back of the ... What is distressing me now, and together with the family is that we don’t know the truth. So knowing the truth to us now becomes the prime thing, the most important thing. But as I indicate that I know that the whole thing, the whole issue here, it’s a process. So maybe immediately we know the ... This school in the township of Thabong was at the heart of student mobilization. In 1986 literally hundreds of young men and women from the goldfields skipped the country. Testimonies at the TRC this week suggested the flood into exile was caused by the push of the security forces rather than by ... … Loose everything that you worked for in your life, get out of the country, go and face the so-called enemy. Tell them you’re sorry. And with your back against the wall and with the help of the world media - because they say the pen is mightier than the sword and I firmly believe it up till ... I wake up at night then small fat men with bald heads chase me. They chase me and pin me down. When I call for help no voice comes out. There was a time people said I was mad because they regarded those of us who came from the border as mad. We cannot tolerate a situation where the regime’s control of state power allows it the space to deny and cover up its role in fostering and fermenting violence. The Boipatong massacre is one of the most chilling instances of the consequences of the actions of the FW de Klerk regime. The regime ... Our Truth Commission here is very different because we have television cameras recording every single moment and radio microphones, and it’s broadcast on a daily basis. Does that in your experience make a big difference? // It’s absolutely remarkable to me to watch the process here. I mean, ... Taking on a coloured identity meant far more than just a change of name. To be a convincing coloured meant giving up all vestiges of a former black identity. // The only thing that you had in mind now in order to get away from these claws that are haunting you as an African people, you had to give ... Krishna Rabilal was among the 12 ANC cadres slain that night. He was a student visiting Maputo from Swaziland. His brother saw the aftermath of the attack. // I was shocked to see the hundreds of bullet holes on the walls and the ceilings, it actually gave me an idea about the extent to which these ... Right, let’s get stuck into that. Dr Mandela, we talked about perceptions now, but Mr. Mzizi is bringing up something else – the whole question of reopening of old wounds. He just said the healing had begun but now the Truth Commission has scratched open the wounds. Do you agree with that ... Are you going to apologise to the people who died in jail, who died in Lesotho, who died in … // No, I’m praying for them. ... those whose release ought to have been secured? // Chairman it must have been, but only three as I said were released to me. // And did you become aware when you personally drove them to the office of Mr. Naidoo that Stompie was not amongst those? // I was aware Mr. Chairman that Stompie was not ... Comrade Mzwai Philiso, he was the head of the ANC Intelligence and Security he said I know the guy so he sent people from Zambia to debrief me. The brief last about a week in a motel outside Harare. I was asked questions, everything from sexual inclination, from my birth, my schooling, my ... My impression with great piety your honour, my impression was that he was extremely militant because of the conflict of the black ideology and the white really came to the fore. // He was a leader among the people involved in the schools unrest. He was also responsible for chasing pupils out of the ... ‘Intussen versterk Vorster sy stryd teen ondermyners. Op 11 Junie 1963 word ‘n klopjag op Arthur Goldreich se huis in Rivonia uitgevoer. Baie mense word in hegtenis geneem … vermoor ‘n verstandelike versteurde parlementsbode Dr Hendrik Frensch Verwoerd, die man wat allerwee bestempel was as ... The news and these revelations are only coming to the fore now and I simply couldn”t believe my eyes and my ears as to what these people were saying. That people were saying that they had gained the impression that they were authorised to do certain things. And they are saying that they gained ... Enough for whom? And what is enough? Would enough be that if you murdered somebody I would be satisfied if you were executed? Is that enough? Would it be enough that you are incarcerated for 10, 15, 20, 30 years? Enough? What do you mean enough? An eye for an eye? Is that what would satisfy? I ... We’re coming as an alternative force and then we have to prove to the people that we are indeed an alternative force, and then we had to do it by means of demanding and pressurizing the government. There are a number of affidavits that I’ve read where people said that this wasn’t just Ama-Afrika’s base, it was also a torture centre for people in disagreement with Ama-Afrika. // I will very much disagree with such affidavits. And for that matter, we came across them and we ... |
