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people's warExplanation I became known, especially in the Western Cape, as the person to contact if cadres got injured or people were in danger in some kind of way. As you know many people couldn’t go to hospitals because they were at risk of being arrested. So, my little house became a little hospital or clinic and ... I had gone there to shoot any living thing. It was my aim to shoot anybody within the tavern // The rifle grenade that was fired in by Mr. Madasi, why did that have wire nails either glued or fixed to the head of the rifle grenade. Can you explain that to us? // We decided to make it so, so that as ... The TRC is the only forum with some credibility and acceptability available to us in which we can publicly apologise to all those who had been hurt by the travesties of the past. It is the most effective way available to us which we can use to offer help and healing to those who had committed ... Is it correct that the people that beat Stompie were Mrs. Mandela, Katiza, Slash and yourself? // Yes, but there are others. Everybody who was there participated as well as the other members of the Mandela United Football Club. The intention was not to kill him brutally, it was to make the whole thing appear … it was to simulate robbery, but unfortunately on the scene of crime certain things develop that you don’t expect. Mxenge’s physical strength was undermined, but when he was stabbed, he stood up and he fought. ... Eighty year old Elias Molatseli was a school principle when he was arrested in 1978. // On that particular morning the police came in and they wanted my identity document I gave them. And they started searching the house, and they found a book called Up from Slavery that was written by T Washington ... We talk of witchcraft, we don’t even talk of wizard craft, there’s nothing like that. It’s always witch craft. And the victims in the north have been mostly women, old women. // More than 200 people have died at the hands of witch hunters in the Northern Province. Belief in witchcraft ... I think it was Cecil Msotho who I saw first and he described the tail end of the shootout in which opposite the dormitory we were in, under a gum tree, police had walked up to a guy, to one of the people they had shot, and had in fact fired a bullet into him while he was prostrate on the ground. I believe a person who killed so cold-bloodedly, I believe something must be done about him because it’s innocent people, innocent people in the street. He didn’t care who they were. ... leg and truth first as always. Are we really, have we really been getting to the truth in this process? // First of all congratulations on your award. We have certainly done that. We’ve heard the stories of victims and survivors. We were worried that we were not in fact getting the accounts ... Perhaps this is the real spirit of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission, a day requested by and devoted to the communities of Bongulethu and Bridgton in Oudtshoorn. A day to speak not only about their pain and anger but also about their hopes and dreams. There were many unique features to this ... My hands are clean and it’s nonsense to say that I knew about it. It is a lie and it is untrue that I ever had a strategy to through violence destabilize on the one hand people that we were negotiating with. Commissioner Johan van der Merwe also told the Truth Commission that the 1988 order to bomb Khotso House in Johannesburg originated in the state president’s office. // In 1988 the headquarters of the South African Council of Churches in Johannesburg was bombed. 18 people were injured and the ... I think cartooning is powerful in the sense that many people see the stuff every day. It’s very immediate and it does illicit reaction. When I say have I had reaction, sometimes that reaction comes through letters and other things where I don’t actually meet the people. Yes, it has a lot of ... William Makulani is the only other member of the 26 who still lives in Victoria West. He was also the one most severely tortured by the police and it is for this that he went to the Truth Commission. // Because they beat me up so badly for something I did not do. // But was there any truth in the ... The National Party government military, I would say they are a bunch of cowards, traitors if anything. They have left their people there; they have done nothing to help them. In the wake of this massacre black Uitenhage was a bomb waiting to explode. The community had barely buried its dead when in 1986 it experienced the forced removal of 48 000 people from Langa to KwaNobuhle. The nationwide state of emergency saw mass detentions of the UDF leadership. Consumer and ... Brigadier Gqozo and the Ciskei authorities did everything they could to stop the march. In the early hours of September 7th a magistrate gave permission for the march to proceed as far as Bisho stadium, where the marchers would be permitted to hold a rally. Razor wire fencing was rolled out across ... Helena and her husband Andre started the school with 20 children. The De Kock’s were average white Afrikaans South Africans with a dream. // In living in this country we had the desire in our innermost hearts and beings to establish something that we can do well for the whole nation not just for ... Our Truth Commission here is very different because we have television cameras recording every single moment and radio microphones, and it’s broadcast on a daily basis. Does that in your experience make a big difference? // It’s absolutely remarkable to me to watch the process here. I mean, ... |
