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self-defence units (SDUs)Explanation Showing 361 to 380 of 808 First Page•Previous Page 15 •16 •17 •18 •19 •20 •21 •22 •23 Next Page•Last PageJUDGE KHAMPEPE: And would you also share his opinion that it was secret even to Brigadier Van Wyk, even though there was this agreement of co-operation between the two units? MR JANSEN: And the victims of this first incident were only known to yourself, or their personal identities were not known to you, they were known to you as persons who were part of the ANC and of certain operational units of the ANC? ... in, and I want you to explain to the Committee where the unit, the Intelligence Unit at Security Force Headquarters, how that fit in with other units at Security Headquarters? Can you just elaborate a little ... 5. The provision of military hardware and material to members of ANC units during the period 1988 to 1990. ... asked not to use junior officials and the statement I want to make to you Mr Vermeulen is, is it correct that this Unit Commander of these Security Units who asked for Vlakplaas' services, were responsible for actions in their ... ... was all out and Mbulelo came from that background. Mbulelo himself had escaped. That was not his first escape. Whilst he was working with other units in the country, I learned that he had escaped from another operation and he was the only man trapped or encircled, but he managed to escape and ... ... getting together having a braaivleis andswopping bush stories. What it is, is SWAPO, ANC, APLA, UhmkontoweSizwe, Koevoet, Rekkies, all the units every single unit everybodywho ever was trained in any way militarily getting together andjust trying to make some kind of sense of the mess we ... MR DU PLESSIS: Some of the aspects mentioned here this morning by Commissioner Malan regarding units A, B and C, the functioning of the security branch, the filing system, the informers and how they operated, that was covered in that evidence? ... at that stage General Engelbrecht was devolved to the Detective Branch at Police Head Office and he was the Chief of the Murder and Robbery Units in the country, but he was devolved to the Security Branch or to Security Head Office for purposes of this ... ... was all out and Mbulelo came from that background. Mbulelo himself had escaped. That was not his first escape. Whilst he was working with other units in the country, I learned that he had escaped from another operation and he was the only man trapped or encircled, but he managed to escape and ... MR ROSSOUW: Do you know if there were any standing orders concerning co-operation between different units within the Security Branch? ... a lot of issues. Perhaps it was also in our discussion, but I cannot say for sure, because we were not talking about the specific targets that the units were supposed to attack. It could have been possible that he did talk to me about his target that he was about to attack, but I never ... ... there were two limpet mines that exploded at OK Bazaar. In fact Bafunuku was only having one limpet mine. That means there was a coincidence of units, that they entered the same shop at the same ... ... agents, informers and handlers. He was not and I think that is common cause, it is common cause in fact, part of any of the known assassination units, such as Vlakplaas, does not claim to have been a member of such a unit, nor to have ever previously committed or being instructed to commit ... MR MADIKIZELA: I'm instructed by Col Fetman that he also visited the scene as a senior officer who was not commanding any of the units that were there. What do you say to that? MR DIAHO-MONAHENG: The owner of this Langley, we were at one of the units in Mdantsane, but I do not remember the unit number. ADV POTGIETER: And you said they had nothing to do with any operations, they were just basically training, establishing units? MR BUTHELEZI: What I'm trying to explain is that we would have not suffered casualties in my units. When he came with the police they stated it clearly that they were there in connection with the death of that policeman. He was with the police when they came in connection with that matter. MR STEYN: Mr Chairperson, Mr Botha among others informed me that during the drive to the farm, Ndwandwe admitted that some of her units had been responsible for the death of Lieutenant Radjo and that Warrant Officer Zukela had also died as a result of the actions. MR TSOMELA: No Chairperson I cannot, as I'm saying that sporadic incident happens and the branch commanders of the different units or components lead their duties according to the available crime intelligency. |