self-defence units (SDUs)

MR BERGER: Subsequent to the explosion, did you report your participation, your units participation in that bombing to the leadership of the ANC?

CHAIRPERSON: And what department - was he from the Riot Squad units, was he from ...(intervention)

in his absence Dube gave them.  Evidence was led that Dumakude, as the Commander of Special Operations, commanded a number of other underground  units and the Applicants' unit was only one amongst them.  he had to do a wide variety of tasks and was in and out of the country.  It is also ...

GEN J J VIKTOR: That is correct. The Unrest Unit or Riot Units were involved in controlling unrest, particularly in Black areas.

MR MHLABA: And what was the chain of command, were you supposed to report back to your commander or anyone of the units could go and talk to your commander?

... when we did manage to raise funds this money would be used by the unit, for instance to transport weapons because we used to link with other units, some in Natal, so we had to have money for transport to go ...

... a lot of issues. Perhaps it was also in our discussion, but I cannot say for sure, because we were not talking about the specific targets that the units were supposed to attack. It could have been possible that he did talk to me about his target that he was about to attack, but I never ...

my full cooperation at all times. Regarding any investigation, not specifically referring to Mr Knipe specifically because he was involved in other units, but I did cooperate closely with the detective ...

... to visit with the witness, as through the passage of time, he is unfortunately unable to recall precisely the dates when he was with certain units and when the transfers took place. Maybe you could just clarify that for the members of the ...

Units there reported that they had spotted them there and they went over and picked them up and instructions that were given to them was that they should apprehend them and bring them down to Gaberone, where our operational Headquarters was. This was subsequently done and on arrival in Gaberone, I ...

2A conflicts; people well conversant and those who were left out of the other units were put into contra-mobilisation. Among those who were in the contra-mobilisation, there were those who did qualify to other categories. However, because their background was very good with regards to a ...

... they had to go to Hammanskraal so that they had to undergo crash courses to become policemen, because they had to be placed out to, sent to other ...

MR WILLIAMS: Maybe I should ask that to Mr van Zyl. Then I also want to ask you Sir, if one of the units had to for example burn down a premises did they have to seek your authority for that?

GEN STEYN: Yes, he would also have used his members to gather information in this regard, whether there be another investigative units or not.

MR DIAHO-MONAHENG: The owner of this Langley, we were at one of the units in Mdantsane, but I do not remember the unit number.

MR DE KOCK: Chairperson, by nature of my service it was not a question of being indispensable or not, people could do with you what they wanted, they could get rid of you if they wanted, if they wanted to disband units they could do that.

CHAIRPERSON: Are you talking about the units?

"... a group of black males entered into the shack and one of the group stabbed me with a spear, while others were breaking my kitchen units and chairs."

MR ERASMUS: And more specifically in the special ops or spes ops units which had several European members which is now well known.

Can you tell the Committee what indications there were that torture would be condoned or they would be protected - your members, your - members of your various units and people under you or above you?