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self-defence units (SDUs)Explanation Showing 581 to 600 of 808 First Page•Previous Page 26 •27 •28 •29 •30 •31 •32 •33 •34 Next Page•Last PageDR RANDERA: You weren’t aware of any discussions ? You weren’t aware that perhaps the farms were being used by the army ? You weren’t aware that some of the farmers themselves may have been members of Army Commando Units ? MS VAN DER WESTHUIZEN: Do you know anything about self-protection units that were formed by IFP members in Thokoza? JUDGE MOTATA: No, but what should we understand? In his initial affidavit he mentions several names and then he says: "We were divided into units of seven which carried out these operations". What should we understand by him saying so? And he mentions the people who fell under his unit, whom he ... MR KOOPEDI: Did you receive any personal gain out of your involvement with these units and the operations? Did you receive anything at all? structures of the IFP. I only got to know some of these things whilst I was in prison." He also admitted to having no knowledge of self-protection units that were formed by IFP members in Thokoza. It is also significant that when referring to people who were targeted he specifically mentions ... MR PRINSLOO: It had always been the objective or the modus operandi of the various instructors to establish special units which could wage war because we knew that at a certain point in time the ANC/SACP alliance would lodge an attempt to take over the country and to become the new government. ... I do not understand, Mr Mbatha, what you are placing before us. I mean, you have earlier on advised us that you have been a trainer of the units which came through whilst you were in Uganda. Are you saying it was part of the training that a cadre could refuse instructions which he ... MR ROSSOUW: but the point that I want to know from you is the person who went to Vlakplaas were persons who could be trusted, who were chosen specifically because they could protect the identity of the clandestine units at Vlakplaas, they had to live up to that expectation. ... and forgive me. I know that it's very difficult for the government to say yes to that because that is not the process in what was happening in our ... MR BERGER: Now after the bomb was planted and exploded at Silverton, were you aware of the decision to report the fact that your units had planted that bomb, to report that to the leadership in Botswana? ... Pedlar, who was the commander of the AWB in the area from Umkomaas to the Transkei and Robin Shoesmith, a member of the IFP's self protection units in their political was against the ANC. The Flagstaff station was considered an easy target for this purpose because according to information ... ... the fertility/infertility. The first thing that I want to understand is, how does this fall - we've heard so much about the establishment of these units and why they were established, I just want you to explain to us how that fell because as I understood from Doctor van Rensburg yesterday, ... ... of that building by damaging the building. The intention, they testified, was not to endanger lives. In fact, strict instructions were given to units that executed the plan that no person was to be seriously injured or killed in the ... MR HATTINGH: But it was also expected of him as the Commander of Vlakplaas, to report to you from time to time as you were his Commander and that he was supposed to report to you about the activities of these units. MR JANSE VAN RENSBURG: No Mr Chairman. I have no knowledge of these specialised debriefing units. Thank you. You then proceed to say that it was agreed between the first applicant and yourself that you will carry out this operation as other cell units did not have the requisite experience to handle an attack of this nature and that after careful reconnaissance surveillance, you had agreed to ... MR DA SILVA: How would you differentiate between vehicles which belonged to the Vaal Commando and other military units? ... in either the inspection of such engine or chassis numbers, and are not trained in such areas, whereas we are, that's why they call us Spes ... ... other liberation movements took undue credit for the work of their cadres. At first acknowledgement was to be done by the head of Repossession Units, but later, when he was pressed on the point he said it was safer if cadres on the ground used their discretion and did the acknowledgement ... ... whilst negotiations were continuing between Brigadier Gqozo and their leaders. Razor wire was then ordered from Pretoria and then two container units of razor wire were received. ... |