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sjambokExplanation MR MAKANJEE: In your evidence at the trial you were asked about the assaults and you stated that Mrs Mandela, Mrs Madikizela-Mandela, started hitting you with open hands, with fists and also with the sjambok. Do you confirm that? ... question by a number of police including the applicant. This is contrary to applicant's version as set out above, that he was compelled to use the sjambok after Mr Jack became ... ... therefore, we do not hate the European because he is White, we hate him because he is an oppressor and it is a plain dishonesty to say 'I hate sjambok not the one who wields ... ... to him was ... (inaudible) ... that thing is used to put on the head so that he should always tell the truth and there was a bottle of water and a sjambok. And when the police were taking me from the cell they said I should come and see what is happening to Sipho. He had a cut beneath the ... MR RICHARDSON: Those were the things that we were using, the sjambok and the stick. MR BIZOS: Do you agree that hitting the human flesh with a hosepipe or a sjambok usually leaves marks which are described as tramlines? MR GUMBI: If we got arms from the members in the community, and if we knew that this person was from our own community, that person would be disciplined with a sjambok. ... chair. He just kept saying, "no, you cannot sit down in my office". This surprised me. Well this Taylor, this notorious Taylor, he had an orange sjambok with him. Then he looked at Strydom, and the Lieutenant Strydom said, "yes, Dennis come up with the truth". I said, "which truth?" Well, a ... MR SIBEKO: You said a sjambok was used, is that correct? MR MNGOMEZULU: I assaulted them with a sjambok and we then went to the sports ground. MR RICHARD: Now, did any sjambok ... (intervention) And all this time they were kicking me, they placed me on top of the Casspir with a sjambok around my neck and around my waist. They were beating me all this time. They told me to toi-toi, because I was toi-toiing. They told me to say Viva and I did all that. They were assaulting me all this ... They got there, I don't know how they got into the house. They woke me up, they said that this is the person. There were a whole lot of people. Somebody identified me. I got up, they had a sjambok. a racial struggle, because we didn't define in any ...(indistinct) because her or his colour as it is written in our books that you do not hate the "sjambok", but you hate the man who is using it. You can't say that you are hating the "sjambok", not the person who is using the "sjambok", because ... It appears to have been a struggle that commenced in a bar. Evidence was given at the trial that the accused had a sjambok in his hand and that there was a struggle for the sjambok, and the deceased gained possession of it, and he was still holding onto it when the investigating officer arrived ... ... there and we couldn't handle those cattle and he told me that, in fact he told all of us, that our brains are as black as our anus and he had a sjambok in his hand and he said he would - he threatened to sjambok us but he didn't and he told us that if we were looking for money we cannot find ... MS MAGALWANE: I would add something as I go to Bizana a lot. They would sjambok, especially a policeman called Du Toit. And you would ask to see a member of your family. Then he would say that the men that are against the Government are not allowed to have visitors. He would come out with ... ... anti-crime then the residents would go to them to say we need your assistance and so forth and they did the work quite excellently and without any sjambokings and sentences. But unfortunately as time went around after the six days war when now everyone was angry, it was the deaths and Alexandra ... ... and other black people was in the past. In the police I became unpopular because I said, let us rather go in with a smile than with a whip and a sjambok. I took those sjamboks out of the police, I said no you simply don't beat people like that, you don't beat people if it's not necessary. So ... ... would be expected to have acted in 1984, it's basically the same procedure applicable to crowd control situations, there should be maximal use of sjamboks, teargas, rubber bullets etc, I think the rubber sjambok was also prohibited after '84. I may be wrong there. And then batons and ... |