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toyi-toyiExplanation MR NDWANDWE: I think you were present while evidence was being led that during those days anything to do with boycotts, stay-aways and toyi-toying, people who used to blamed for such incidents were the ANC people. I don't know whether you understand that kind of a picture. And you had come to the march on the 7th September. --- In 1992 I was a student here in Bisho, resident here in Bisho and I was injured before the march. I was injured here in Bisho. We were toyi-toying on our way back from a meeting and I was knocked by a car driven by soldiers. Before then, ... He just says that in a detailed manner that Jacques was involved in events, he was toyi-toying in the street, he was actively involved in throwing rocks at vehicles. There’s also a quote, the deceased Jacques de Bruin and Pieter Ruiters was prominently visible in the group. (end of quote) The ... Therefore they would be directly responsible in cases like toyi-toyi and political activity. Therefore they needed people who could carry out this mission properly. Therefore our mission was to infiltrate the SAP as Special Constables, so that we could attack the ANC as Special Constables in ... MR BIZOS: I would agree with you fully, but what I am putting to you is - or I will put to you more clearly, is that security policemen and other virulent opponents of the ANC, believed that the people didn't have a will of their own, it was really the agitators in the ANC that were responsible for ... MISS NGAKANE: There is this that I want to say. We can’t really say anything to them because when we conducted the funeral on that day, they were all around the township, at every corner singing and toyi-toyiing. MR MAKWETU: On this particular day, the 27th, we gathered in the evening and we toyi toyi'd up and town the streets of the area and as we were going down Dowe Street, just when we were at the corner of Nkulu Street, we stood because we saw some objects that looked like Donkeys and yet they MS FIBANA: My mother was not going to be a State witness. My mother did not attend the toyi-toyi. She phoned my grandmother saying that if she was to be arrested she wouldn't be able to leave us alone at home. MR VISSER: Chairperson, the authority which we speak about is precisely the fact of his authority of being a policeman. In the example which you mentioned to me, clearly that person is not going to obtain amnesty because on those facts it is so clear that he did not act with a political motive ... MR HENGE: Yes, actually I was involved with politics since 1985, I was toyi-toyiing, running up and down the streets since then. So that is when actually the issue of politics came into my life. MS GQAMFANE: It was a toyi-toyi in the township, all the children were toyi-toyiing. All the activists were toyi-toyiing. The police came as they were toyi-toyiing. They were all over the township singing, toyi-toyiing. The police came, they chased them away. Children ran away. They ran to ... They went back to the meeting where they gave a report-back. Immediately the crowed decided that petrol be acquired to burn witches in the village. At that stage no names had been mentioned by any person from the crowd. Worst of all, Taledi had not mentioned any names of the so-called witches. ... and that was a consistent theme, as Mr Roshalt mentioned, and as we found in our delegations to government. Now, practically speaking, you know, what practically, other than constructive engagement, can a business organisation, such as a Chamber of Commerce, actually do? Do we toyi-toyi out in ... MR DUMA: There was stone throwing and incidents of toyi-toying at the time. After he was discharged from hospital, he was working for Mita, but he was having fits. Then when I asked him what had actually happened, he said they saw a group of people as they were patrolling, and these people were toyi- toying and they just heard gunshots and one fell and the others jumped ... MS VUSANI: She passed away in 1985. It was for the first time that she experienced this thing. We were from somewhere else, we had just relocated to Uitenhage. It was very bad, it was tense. It was the very first day that my brother had decided to go to a toyi toyi. Unfortunately he was ... Myself and other comrades then took an initiative of addressing the problems at school due to the oppressive laws that prevailed at the time, we could not operate normally and our arrest and detention became inevitable. We then became very sensitive to the comrades who betrayed us or people who ... MR TYALI: I can support my statement because I never heard the police singing toyi-toyi songs before in the government buildings. I have never seen such behaviour, the behaviour that I witnessed on that particular day, that is why I am saying today that their aim was really to remove Brig Gqozo. You were saying that it happened on 31st December 1985. Would you like to tell us further? --- Matambomtini arrived at my home in the morning to tell me that Mbulelo was shot and I asked as to where was he shot and where, and who shot him. He said to me, Mbulelo was ... [indistinct] by ... ... MR NKOSI: Well the deceased as an employee of the then government, I do not think he would have approved of us doing activities like toyi-toyi and so forth. |