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toyi-toyiExplanation DR MAGWAZA: Good morning, Sir. There are a few more questions to ask. At the time when you joined the group of youths who were toyi-toying, what was happening at that time? Why were they toyi-toying? --- They were chanting slogans about Mandela, and we were singing about the freedom. MR BIZOS: ...(indistinct - no microphone) particularly by Mr Wagener who is not here, who, when asked what examples were there of anyone's life being in danger in the hundreds if not thousands of applications that have hitherto been held, some of them in places like New Brighton and other places, ... MR KRUSER: The other crowds moved almost consistently in a slow type of march or toyi-toyi as they would call it. This crowd was, as though they were humming up in type of dance at the corner, standing still but they were not moving, they seemed to be constant on the corner, that is my ... MS MBIXANA: In 1986, in September, there was a funeral in Avenue A in New Brighton in Port Elizabeth. We used to see him joining the toyi toyi, but on this particular day, we were not aware that he was there. Then I noticed that he was not present, then we said that if he was there, he would of ... You take such instances that at one main school here, there was a sports competition and kids were playing. One team in which there were many Black kids won so they started toyi-toying and singing in Sotho, jumping for joy that they won. The principal at the assembly said this school has an ... MS THABETHE: My next question is, isn't it common cause, Mr Mnyandu, that if there were toyi-toyiing or marches the police would call a person that they know is a comrade to tell the others to disperse or sometimes what they would do they would use a loudspeaker and tell the people to disperse? ... I would be failing in my duty as Shembe's representative if I were not to tell the truth as he would if he were here today. It is quite interesting to listen to other people confessing their sins and we tend to regard ourselves as holier than thou, but time will tell and is already telling ... MISS MBOYA: Thank you. In 1992, there was a toyi-toyi here in town. After that, people dispersed and they went to their different homes. MISS NGAKANE: There is this that I want to say. We can’t really say anything to them because when we conducted the funeral on that day, they were all around the township, at every corner singing and toyi-toyiing. Therefore they would be directly responsible in cases like toyi-toyi and political activity. Therefore they needed people who could carry out this mission properly. Therefore our mission was to infiltrate the SAP as Special Constables, so that we could attack the ANC as Special Constables in ... He just says that in a detailed manner that Jacques was involved in events, he was toyi-toying in the street, he was actively involved in throwing rocks at vehicles. There’s also a quote, the deceased Jacques de Bruin and Pieter Ruiters was prominently visible in the group. (end of quote) The ... MR BIZOS: I would agree with you fully, but what I am putting to you is - or I will put to you more clearly, is that security policemen and other virulent opponents of the ANC, believed that the people didn't have a will of their own, it was really the agitators in the ANC that were responsible for ... [Indistinct] ... to get the situation clear in my mind, on the day when you were shot what was the situation in Paballelo? Was there unrest? Was there police activity?--- There was unrest during that time. As you know, every year on the 15th June arrangements are made for the commemoration on ... A large group of IFP supporters from the hostels were moving in Khumalo street towards the Thokoza stadium to attend a rally called by their leaders. A group of youths displaying placards and singing "toyi-toyi" songs led the procession. They were followed at a distance by the first group of ... MR MAKWETHU: I don't know, but you could hear that it was the toyi-toyi song, the freedom song. My worry was that I was not sleeping at home, they didn't know what happened to me. MR MAKHULENI: I heard about this incident, it was 1987, that a certain Policeman known as Shorts shot a pregnant woman in the stomach and Mabanza Road when there was a toyi-toying moving around in the corner of Mabanza. The woman was walking, so they were dispersing that toyi-toyi. MR NDWANDWE: I think you were present while evidence was being led that during those days anything to do with boycotts, stay-aways and toyi-toying, people who used to blamed for such incidents were the ANC people. I don't know whether you understand that kind of a picture. MR WILLIE BALOYE: On the 23rd we were on our back from the S&B Stadium rally of Sianquoba, we moved by train from Johannesburg and we were singing and very happy. When the train got to Kaalfontein there were no people inside. We were toyi-toyiing. When the train left the platform a group of ... MR NGCOBO: No. I did not... I did mention who the people were because they were known. They used to toyi toyi and celebrate the whole night after the had killed a person, and everybody knew them and knew what they had done. They were toyi toyiing even near the police station. MRS MAY: There was toyi-toyi all over. |