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toyi-toyiExplanation MR NDZOTOYI: To be honest with you, the situation was so tense and to anybody amongst here, who stayed here in PE, if 15, 20 people came to your place toyi-toying, you went to where they want you to go, voluntarily. I was also checking the structure of the house and I realised that it was a four-roomed house like the other houses and behind it there is an out-building. At times it would happen that at night you were to listen and there would be toyi-toying and I realised that people who are in that house, ... People were toyi-toying concerning these allegations that I am a rich man in Transkei and I am misleading people here in Cradock. MR HLONGWA: A good relationship with the community because he was one of the comrades who usually toyi-toyied and he would attend ANC meetings. CHAIRPERSON: Yes, I mean you could have toyi-toyed. I've listened to many of these cases and that's another peculiarity that I'll raise with you in a minute. You could have toyi-toyed there as a community, as a youth league, you could have intimidated her, you could have spoken to the chief, you ... WITNESS: The policemen came at night, I was asleep. It was probably around 1 or 2 am, I was asleep at that time. I heard noises. I said to my wife, "this pig must have escaped from its canal." This pig, when it was looking for a male pig it used to just jump out," so I thought it was the pig ... When we arrived in the mountain, we took her out and other people got inside the bakkie. Some of them were running and chanting and they were chanting songs, toyi-toying and saying (indistinct). came back from school that afternoon, had something to eat and went back for afternoon studies and at approximately 5 pm he had not come back yet, because normally they return back to school at 2 pm. We were worried as to why he had not returned yet and we heard a toyi-toyi march past our house, ... Whilst the police were busy at your house, what took place outside? What were the people doing? --- They sang freedom songs and they were toyi-toiing to show the South African Police that they were stupid. WITNESS: I was interrogated by these members of AZAPO. There was a certain Mr Ngcobo Nguna who was a big official of Maqhina. He said to me... At that time I was bleeding when they said I must demonstrate what toyi-toyi is. I had to demonstrate just like this. MR PHAMA: They were singing toyi-toyi songs and there was a gap between them and this other group of people. MR HADEBE: They were dancing - I mean they were doing to the toyi-toying and insulting, pointing at us, we the IFP members, when they were boarding the bus. That is what they were doing. That's the celebration I'm talking about. MR GOBOZA: The people were toyi-toying. MR NTULI: I would like to say that I was always with Victor and I used to be involved in his affairs and during this incident I was with him in Lamontville. What I am trying to explain is the fact that there is no way that Victor could be a target, as it is described here. I believe that they had ... MR KHUBEKA: No, I don't want to commit myself, I knew nothing, I was just happy to be toyi-toying around. I used to sing. I was the one who was taking the lead in singing. The police came to fetch him. The following day in the morning, Sebenzile's friend who was with him at the time, gave us more information. He told us that they were toyi-toying, but they decided to go back to the house to see his girlfriend. You said on the 13th of August in 1985 you were toyi-toying in the street and while you were still toyi-toying you were shot by the South African Defence Force. Can you A fight started and he heard a shot; one of the comrades was injured. Another comrade tried to shoot but his gun jammed; the Applicant took the gun from him, cleared it and shot two IFP members. When the train stopped people ran and he could not shoot them but he later threw the bodies out as ... He said that there were no riots, they were just toyi-toying. It was not all the people from the township, it was only a small group because we are two groups in the township. It was only kids. Then the police came, then Flemming shot me. I was actually shot by Flemming, my son said. Then my ... MR MAHLANGU: It was, they were toyi-toying and singing and after they surrounded her, they started singing louder. |