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toyi-toyiExplanation MR BHAYI: I'd like to say myself, the role that I was playing even in the community whenever I see people toyi toying, I used to go there and join the toyi toyi because I used to love it and even when they were going to these places no one pulled me along but I just said it to join them. just toyi-toying. And the whites would see us toyi-toying CHAIRPERSON: Yes we can assume they were toyi-toyiing, they were coming down the road singing, toyi-toyiing, he obviously heard them so he obviously had an idea of what was coming. MS KAMA: In 1985 we were not aware of riots at that time. Lulama Kama did not do anything. There was a meeting of the Councillors at Nyibiba with the residents. There was conflict in that meeting between the Councillors and the residents. On the following week the children were toyi-toying in ... On the 24th February we received a message that we must go and safeguard a meeting. That was an ANC meeting. It was going to occur at Noshesi area. We took a police van, we went there and at Noshesi. When we arrived there we found supporters of ANC and they were marching and singing, toyi-toyi ... MISS TSILI: At the time there were school boycotts. There are schools in our streets, Andrew Moyake and Natalenyawusa High School. On this particular day all the people came from Josa to join the boycott. Students would not wear their uniforms, it was about nine or ten on that day. We were ... looking for they said they are looking for petrol bombs because my child was toyi-toyiing and my problem now is that I was affected since then, even my eyesight is affected since last year August. MR LUBANYANA: No, there was no unrest in his section but we had heard that in M-Section there was unrest and there were boys who were toyi-toying, but there were never any bad incidents at the time. MR SEMENYA: Now, we were listening to Mr Morgan, he told us yesterday that when you people came into the car, you were just toyi-toying, when you left the manse? Is that correct? MR VENTER: Can you just turn your question because I never agreed to saying I loved what happened, I did it because I was a soldier and it was my task to do it. I won't go toyi-toyi if your brains lies on the floor. That was something we had to do, I didn't love it, I did it because I was a ... MR MAHAULE: I did not see any need to differentiate because when there was a toyi-toyi we were all grouped into whether you are in uniform special branch and soldiers camouflage MR KAMANA: For example, let me make an example I was staying at Chachu, I was staying with people who didn't like Brigadier Gqozo, so those people when they were toyi-toying, I was sent to those people to stop those people from doing that. I was being sent by an Officer who got instructions from ... approaching her house, toyi-toying on the 27th. She ran away with her two children and approached the veld and we chased after her. We found her near a river and we caught her. The comrades who caught her were around about 10 to 15. She was already bleeding at that time on the head and on the ... Velisile Lopy Toyi will be testifying about an atemped murder on himself in 1985 in Grahamstown. What are your wishes? --- I wish that they could repent from their sins of the past. I want them to turn over new leaves and change their lifestyles as well as their ideologies. I feel terrible about the fact that my children have been affected by this aftermath, because they still suffer ... MR HENS: There were some other people who appeared in court, but this boy had been arrested as one of the people who were in a toyi toyi. MR MADUNA: I was from Radebe and I was going to Mafimela, at home, I had an AK-47 with me. I saw many comrades and they were toyi toying, they were singing, and I joined them. There was a van, and in that van there was a RPG 7, fireguns were just fired between Tokoza and Myala. We went across ... We were asked why did we not use crowd control measure as standard practice. If the marchers would have moved as a crowd, singing, toyi-toying, chanting, towards our lines, we would have been able to stick to proper crowd control measure but that was not the case. When our soldiers, my soldiers, ... So then we started having a conflict. When this conflict started the WARSA people, in fact, the FAWU people started toyi-toying. We went to the toyi-toyi and the WORSA people went to fetch people at Thokoza, Vosloorus and arrived and they took them to Escort bacon factory and they put them on ... MR SANDI: Was there any march or a toyi-toyi that was taking place in your surroundings? |