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VlakplaasExplanation MS PATEL: Supposing your infiltrators needed more weapons or ammunition, would the motivation still have to go through to Vlakplaas or would it be done regionally? ADV LAMEY: In paragraph 8(a) you say that you were also in the employ of the State, specifically the South African Police's Security Branch, Vlakplaas, from 1980 to approximately 1986? Mr Nortje, you have made an application to the Amnesty Committee for various incidents in which you as a member of Vlakplaas, were involved during your career in the Security Police, is that correct? MR HATTINGH: And as it has become a matter of course, do you confirm the contents of your supplementary affidavit where you deal with Vlakplaas, which has served before several other Committees? MR VAN DYK: I was at Vlakplaas Security Head Office. MR VAN DYK: ... given to me at Vlakplaas before we departed - to use the old term, to the Eastern Transvaal, where we on average went out for three weeks to a month and we went to the Eastern Transvaal on this occasion. Before our departure he informed me that there was a certain person, Jameson ... MR SCHOON: Chairperson, I now recall that a meeting took place at Vlakplaas where certain targets in Botswana were discussed. ... bundle in which amongst others, there is a supplementary statement of yours with regard to your background and there is a statement with regard to Vlakplaas and you request that these statements be read in conjunction with your ... ... else were to launch another investigation. And I have made the following notes among others. Mr Nofomela stated that I shot the man dead at Vlakplaas, by the river, with a 9mm Baretta pistol with a silencer. I told the General that we had a Baretta with a silencer, he told me that the ... "We all knew that when de Kock took such a decision, nobody would dare to go against him and question the decision. At Vlakplaas, already before de Kock's time, there was a culture existing that ANC activists and MK members would be eliminated and if any commander would be, anybody in command, any ... MR RAMAWELE: Is it further correct that at the time of the occurrence of this incident, you were a Sergeant stationed at Vlakplaas? ADV DU PLESSIS: And all you did at Vlakplaas was administrative affairs but periodically you also went out with operational teams? MR CORNELIUS: You served with the section known as Vlakplaas, Section C1 of the South African Police, is that correct? ... Commission or the representatives of certain of the parties before the Harms Commission, wanted to have insight into the personal files of certain Vlakplaas police officers, or all the Vlakplaas police officers, I'm not certain. Is that ... You told the Committee when you gave evidence the last time, that you and a number of members of, or Vlakplaas members had been working in the Ladybrand area, I think it was for the second half of 1985, would that be correct? MR ROUSSOUW: And in 1985 you went to Vlakplaas. EXAMINATION BY MR JANSEN: Thank you. Mr Ras, just with regard to your personal background in the South African Security Police, I would just like for you to confirm a number of aspects, just for the sake of background. Is it correct that in 1984, you joined Section C1 at Vlakplaas? MR ROSSOUW: And you were stationed at Vlakplaas, is that correct? "During 1994 to 1995, Capt de Jongh had a discussion with one, Jimmy Mbane, who was a former member of Vlakplaas. Notes were kept." ADV DE JAGER: C-Section, was that also Vlakplaas? |