Vlakplaas

CHAIRPERSON: No okay, let me put it to you this way. We've heard many cases and before 1994 a lot was said about the Caprivi scenario, the Vlakplaas scenario, etc. It seems to me that you were an expert in training these people in preparation for these horrendous offences, not so?

MR NEL: At the time of this incident you were a member of the police, stationed at Vlakplaas, under the command of Col de Kock.

CROSS-EXAMINATION BY MR HATTINGH: Thank you Mr Chairman. Mr Deetlefs you were then aware that C1 that was stationed at Vlakplaas were the Security Police's operational unit, is that correct?

MR PENZHORN: Vlakplaas?

Were you aware of a letter coming from headquarters concerning Vlakplaas Division C1 that was a newly established structure?

MR LAMEY: And when you later saw the container once again at Vlakplaas, how did it look?

... into an empty office and there were three black policemen standing there. They were told to me - or it was said to me that they were askaris from Vlakplaas. They never spoke to me, they never greeted me, they showed no emotion, although I tried to - I greeted them, I tried to speak to them. ...

MR CORNELIUS: Is it correct that at the time of this Chand incident you were stationed at Vlakplaas and you served under Section C of Eugene de Kock and you were also a Warrant Officer?

... believed to be either ANC members or collaborators.  Permission for this operation had been received from both Brig Schoon who was then head of Vlakplaas and Brig Loots within whose jurisdiction the targeted house ...

MR MOERANE: From time to time from the 80's did you make use of the people from Vlakplaas, de Kock's people, for operations?

... very good that they would be murdered. The attempt to persuade the two PAC detainees to cooperate with the SAP would be undertaken by members of ...

Mr du Toit, were you approached by, or had any dealings with Mr Bosch in this incident, in terms of either him being possibly with Mr de Kock when you were instructed or handing the manufactured device back to Mr de Kock or a member of Vlakplaas?

MR LAMEY: During your service at Murder and Robbery and or thereafter, did you know of a Unit known as Vlakplaas?

MR VISSER: About 9 years. There's a popular misconception, is there not, that the askaris that operated during the conflict of the past, were all stationed at Vlakplaas, near Pretoria. That perception is incorrect, is that right?

... three (3) 9 mm Walter submachine guns with silencers and subsonic ammunition. De Kock states that these were some of the weapons which he found at Vlakplaas when he came there in 1985. According to Labuschagne the attack had to take place at night when Jabu was expected to be at home. The ...

But at that stage I was aware of the fact that he was the Commander of Vlakplaas and I was aware that this was the unit which resorted under Brig Schoon and everything with regard to terrorist insurgency was channeled from Head office to Brig Schoon and therefore I had no problem with the ...

The next day they cleaned the vehicle and returned to it. Hanton went to report to Taylor and Nortje, Brits and Swart travelled back to Vlakplaas and reported to de Kock. He says that he reported to Engelbrecht. De Kock says he gave Nortje the balance of the cash left over from the operation in ...

MR MWELASE: When I was released from prison I was taken to Pretoria where I joined Mr de Kock's unit at Vlakplaas. Normally we would leave Pretoria for Durban to assist in their operations, that is in identifying people whom we knew from exile. It was not only MK cadres who became askaris but ...

... Police when he carried out the operation. It was the duty of the Security Police to maintain law and order in the Republic of South Africa and the Vlakplaas Unit was created specifically to deal with insurgency and to counter any possible attack on the Security Forces and ...

... with, among others and firstly, the general background, the political motivation, as well as a further affidavit which you filed with regard to Vlakplaas, should also be regarded as incorporated with your current ...