Vlakplaas

MR MAMASELA: Because De Kock was then, I explained here, De Kock was then just about to take over Vlakplaas but the man who was doing the talking and all that, it was also De Kock and Venter, Venter is also here. I say myself and Koole and Piet Mogoai.

MR HUGO: With regard to the general background, is it correct that you were attached to Vlakplaas?

MR VAN SCHALKWYK: Now in your application you mentioned that you were then transferred to Vlakplaas, would you just confirm that date that you went there.

EXAMINATION BY MR LAMEY: Thank you Chairperson. Mr Nortje, you have applied for amnesty for various incidents where you as a member of Vlakplaas, had been involved, is that correct?

It's specifically about last-named which I would like to talk to you about. This was a unit similar to the one at Vlakplaas, is that so?

so-called culture at Vlakplaas, to eliminate MK members. Do you see that?

MR LAMEY: Could you tell the Committee when did you become a member of Vlakplaas?

"During the incident I was the Head of Group C at the Security Head Office in Pretoria. As such, Vlakplaas fell underneath my control. The then Col Buchner also resorted under my control."

MR DE KOCK: The Explosives Unit and members of Vlakplaas.

ADV LAMEY: From 1984 to 1990, you were at Vlakplaas in Pretoria?

MR HATTINGH: While I am busy with that, you must have heard that I put this to other persons as well, that the individual members of C1 or C10 at Vlakplaas, all had private arsenals?

MR JANSEN: And in 1984 you were transferred from the Koevoet division in the then Southwest Africa, currently Namibia to the Vlakplaas Unit?

MR DE KOCK: In Gen Engelbrecht's office at the Security Headquarters, he requested me to instruct one of my members of Vlakplaas to accompany the Murder and Robbery unit of the East Rand, to eliminate a former informer of Capt Coetzee, also known as Timul Coetzee.

MR HATTINGH: You have also submitted a supplementary affidavit which deals with Vlakplaas and which can be found in bundle 1D. Do you also confirm the correctness of the allegations contained therein?

... that your recruitment took place in Newcastle and you were so-called turned by the security police in Newcastle and not via the security police at Vlakplaas. Is that ...

CROSS-EXAMINATION BY MR JANSEN: (continued) Mr De Kock, yesterday I was dealing with various aspects of the nature and characteristics of Vlakplaas activities. Apart from the fact that there are no amnesty applications for incidents which would lead or imply reckless or large scale murder on ...

MR CORNELIUS: At the time of this incident concerning Johannes Mabotha, you were a warrant officer stationed at the South African Police services and you were deployed to Section C1 in Vlakplaas under the command of Colonel Eugene de Kock, is that correct?

MR WAGENER: And we are also aware that the Vlakplaas Unit was known as Unit C10 and that from January 1991 it served under your command.

MR GREYLING: They were at Vlakplaas with you?

MR LAMEY: At the stage of this incident, you were a member of C10, Vlakplaas, is that correct?