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ADV BOSMAN: Mr De Kock, while you are talking about undercurrents and differences, what was the relationship like in the State Security sector? Did the military and the police always see eye to eye?

I think he used to visit his comrades there in Port Elizabeth, that's why he left Somerset.

MR MATHER: Yes, I did visit Mr Hatting's farm, he invited me to go to his farm.

MR LUKHELE: I normally go to the hospital to go and visit sick people, that was not my first time to go to the hospital.

Now, in your statement also you said, "We have tried approaching Robert McBride to no avail." Could you expand on that please? --- Well, I had a visit from the BBC, and he apparently did an interview and he said he contacted McBride. One of the victims contacted McBride as well. And he - ...

MR NGUBENI: I was arrested near Spruitview in Leondale. There is a certain gentleman that I went to visit the day. I spent the night at his place, I was arrested the following day in the morning, around the morning. I don't know how the police came to know that I was there, but the police came and ...

MR NKWANYANA: I would only go home to visit them during the day and then leave.

MR RAMAWELE: So are you telling the hearing that the purpose of your visit to Durban was to trace the people who killed the police officers?

In July 77 when I was working on the Voice Newspaper I was invited by a German organisation called Dienste in Overzee through the ecumenical news service of the South African Council of Churches, Ecunews, to visit Germany for a month in September, October 77. As per usual in my case, no passport ...

spraying of graffiti. And there is a certain person, that is myself, I had to go into the community to mobilise the community towards this. Whenever there was a meeting, whether it was between the political groups or within the workers themselves we would visit those meetings. We would attend ...

MR TAYLOR: As I’ve already mentioned, some of these people came to Port Elizabeth at that stage to visit schools or to approach - or to establish SRC’s at schools via COSAS because there were SRC’s at Cradock already at that stage.

We went around looking for my husband. As you all know, this is what happens when somebody disappears. We were vendors and we were selling vegetables. And that is the way in which we were sending our family. When my husband left us I was unable to continue as a vendor and I went to visit him at ...

MRS DLUDLA: We have been friendly for a long time. She was married and she was staying at eSikhawini, we were still friends and we used to visit each other.

MR GROSSKOPF: Ours was a house in which political, moral and intellectual questions were often discussed and with a wide variety of people from many disparate backgrounds. I have a clear memory as a fairly young child of noticing the incongruous situation that my parents' Black friends who would ...

MR VISSER: Now upon a question which was put by my learned friend, you were asked whether anybody arranged for a Magistrate to visit Mr Msibi in prison, what was the procedure regarding emergency regulations when it came to visits by Judges and Magistrates? Was anything arranged for this?

MR MTUNGWA: No, I do not remember. I don't even remember their visit and the fact that someone came and I requested them to go outside so that I talk to this elderly. But I will say something like this may have happened, or it can happen. It is something that happens whenever - you will have ...

MR JANSEN: Well, did they ever pay a visit to Vlakplaas in order to see what was going on there?

Other incidents of repression in the Ciskei. During the course of my duties in the region I used to visit community members with Peace Monitors of the ANC. In August 1992 I visited the Dwashu and Olifant families whose members EAST LONDON HEARING TRC/EASTERN CAPE

MR LOURENS: It varied - it varied as a function of Dr Basson's availability. It was not unusual for Dr Basson to be away for extended periods of time, so really, it wasn't a regular meeting. General Neethling, I at one stage saw him regularly, once every two weeks, but on a completely different ...

... areas, asking them to give us permission to go to the people and talk to them and we managed to address people mobilising for Inkatha. We also went to high schools, warning children that they shouldn't be influenced by the UDF spirit and that's how we tried to build our organisation. We ...