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MR NDLOVU: On the 4th, Thursday 1993, I was sitting at a shop, having a rest when Mr Makhekhe's car stopped there.

MR RADEBE: I do not remember the name of the furniture shop.

Further Applicant denies that he robbed Basie Tladi of his watch, R100.00 and jewellery. He stated that when they shot at him they were close to him and if Gift had robbed him, he would have seen it. Unfortunately Basie Tladi was not available to give his side of the story.

... me that day, I should think that I would have been part of the statistics today, so when they picked me up at a particular flat in Hillbrow, the two policemen that came into my flat, at the first instance they were not courteous to me because they burst into my flat, without even introducing ...

MR NKOSI: In that situation, that war situation, when the comrades visit you with suspicions, and you feel guilty. He felt guilty that is why he was asking for forgiveness.

... these activities. Police didn't help the society. Members of UDF ran away from their houses, and one day one member of the UDF wanted to visit his home, and when he was on his way going home he met police and ...

MR VISSER: Did you at any stage after this incident, visit Vlakplaas during February 1989?

... National Congress and its armed wing, Umkhonto weSizwe in 1984. I became the commander of the Regional Command Structure, Johannes Nkosi Unit, between 1987 to 1990. I received my military training and combat training in Botswana, Zimbabwe and the former Soviet Union. Johannes Nkosi Unit was ...

MR VISSER: You did not visit that scene at all?

... you stayed in Port Elizabeth until 1969 where you also studied, and in 1969 you were 14 years old, and that is when your uncle arranged for you to visit your father in Rhodesia, more particularly in Bulawayo, and after you came back from that visit which lasted three weeks, you wished to return ...

MR MBOVANE: There in the community I am known as Mr Mbovane. I had never had problems there with my community and there was never anything which isolated me from other people. I was always amongst the organisers because I am a card carrying member of the ANC, and I am a staunch follower.

After I was treated no one was allowed to come and visit us. Our children wanted to come and visit us but they couldn’t because the police stopped them. Sebe said that nobody was allowed to visit us. This was very painful to us because we couldn’t see our children. The specialists came to us, ...

MR DE KLERK: Were you a normal card-carrying member of the IFP? Were you a leader? Did you have?

As I had a problem with that company, together with the shop stewards, we came to a point where there was disagreements. At about twelve midnight, because it was at night, we usually take the shop stewards if there is no transport, and take them to their various places.

Lulama was passing by, he was coming from the yard. My mother sent him to the shop to buy sugar. Because he was young, we did not expect anything to happen to him. He then went to the shop.

... that is dedicated to the protection and defence of its members' interest and that its lifeblood in fact is the negotiations it conducts at the shop floor, industry bargaining counsel level and at a macro level, instructions that existed in the past, namely the National Manpower Commission, ...

... before this Committee, exceeds any possible political objective if the Committee finds as she testified that she was robbed of various items in the ...

... wanted to go back to work and I can say that all these people together with Craig Duli, from time to time they would go and visit me because I had two brothers that were working for the Military Intelligence. So it was common for him to visit me at ...

MR BIZOS: Now they decided if you turn to the next page, page 54 of this document, paragraph 5, Mr Strydom reports on his visit and interview with Matthew Goniwe. Do you know who Mr Strydom was?

MR WILLS: Now did anybody else from the IFP come and visit you in prison in order to give you advice on how to fill in your application form?