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Right, now, can you tell us of the events which led to the death of your father. You said in your statement that it started in about 1990, when your brother was attacked at school. Is that right? You said your brother was Tedius Mbatha and that he was attacked at school. Could you just tell us ...

MS PATEL: And that you only come home at the end of every month to visit your family?

MR MAMANI: When we left the police station we drove to a certain house in Mdantsane. When we arrived there this house was used by the comrades, the ANC comrades were using this house. We got in there and we made friends with these comrades but they didn't know anything about our visit but they ...

MS COLERIDGE: You said that in about August '89, he came to visit you at your house. Or he could have telephoned you, did he telephone you?

CHAIRPERSON: But it would be - as far as you are concerned that place that you are speaking about, if any of us now had to go to the Early Learning Centre to visit there, would park there? It would be he obvious place to park.

MR VICTOR: That morning with your visit to the office, why was it necessary for you to accompany Mr de Kock to the office if on your own version you said you did not even go into the office, it would not be fitting?

... I come from Tokoza and I live with my mum and my brothers and sisters. My mum is working, I'm not employed. In August 1993 we were at home when the fight erupted and we saw the Zulus coming to us, telling us to get out of the house and my two brothers were not at home and my mum was asked ...

MR MANTHATA: Can you tell us more about that because it didn't come out as you were relating other things. What became of his visit to the court?

That brings us to the last page of OO, page three of that and that refers to a visit from Cape Town by the General on the 12th of June. He left at 18H50 and he arrived at 20H45 at Jan Smuts and on the Thursday, the 13th of June, he returned at 11H40 and the flight number is given there, etc. ...

On the day of the murder, while he was on a routine visit, he fortuitously met brigadier Cronje, Hechter, van Jaarsveld, Oosthuizen and Gouws at Siyabuswa opposite the government buildings. Cronje asked him whether he knew anything about the whereabouts of Ntuli. At that time he had no knowledge ...

CHAIRPERSON:: Thank you very much Craig. I'm going toask you two questions as I'd like to focus more on the reconciliationefforts that you have been engaged in. I was privileged to aattend a church service on Sunday at the church that Craig istalking about. I just dropped by on a surprise visit ...

... you for coming. I know you've had to travel quite far to get here, and we're grateful for that. Now, just by way of family details, you have given us all the details of your children, and you have two daughters and a son, is that correct? Now, the incidents that you are going to tell us ...

On the evidence before us and on the information contained in the bundle put before us, Exhibit A, it is clear that on the day in question, that is on the 1st of July 1991, the applicant and his companions had travelled down from Pietermaritzburg through Durban to Port Shepstone. They did so in ...

We became aware of unrests in KwaNdebele, but we never paid any attention to it, up to a stage when Gen Wandrag gave instruction that this Investigation Team along with Unit 19, had to visit that area and us as an Investigation Team, had the instruction to investigate approximately 300 murders and ...

MR TSHOKO: No, after the Boipatong massacre in 1993 they couldn't set their foot there and even in 1994 and 1995, they couldn't go there. It's only now that we do visit the area.

MR PRINSLOO: I think so, the applicant's evidence - there is one aspect I would like to just raise, Mr Chairman. I've endeavoured to obtain from the prison in Vryheid, the record as to the visit which the witness Mr Mavuso senior testified to and they say there might still be in existence a ...

CHAIRPERSON: During that time did distinguished people, Ministers and Generals visit Vlakplaas?

And the other reason about the imminent threat, the youths could not be - they were not trained youths, trained military personnel, they didn't have arms with them and the fact which I'm trying to emphasis there is that the youths did not have arms and they were not on the way to attack Mr Nkosi ...

But I didn’t worry about it and then I asked Ferdie Fourie a colleague - a comrade - I asked him what - what should I do because they were charging me with furthering the aims of the ANC, but they weren’t taking us to court. And Ferdie said that there was nothing we could do we just had to wait ...

MR KATI: Yes. My daughter Nomashepita came to visit me. When she ...(tape ends) ....were white men. I was taken to the Cambridge Police Station, that is where I was severely tortured. I was put into the boeing I was covered, it was a cover which was put over my head, there will be ice which is put ...