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MR MAMASELA: Yes, I compiled my diary in 1985 and when this flicker of hope started to come about, this is now Mandela being released from jail and whatever, my wish and my hope as a black person in this country, was enhanced, and when in 1993, when they gave me the package to leave the Police ...

He first of all dismissed the expert testimony of Dr Allan Patten and said that he was in no way convinced that President Mandela and Others were trying to improve the lives of the oppressed in apartheid South Africa. JP de Wet also said that just as a way of explaining to everybody what the ...

... the elections of 1994, the first elections of this country, the honourable President of the African National Congress, your organisation, President Mandela and other respectable leaders, they were passing information that people should not resort to violence, that was the policy of the ANC, isn't ...

... this, I'm just enquiring. Mr Potgieter was subpoenaed to testify on this aspect before the TRC, and this was done at the Section 29 hearing of Mrs Mandela. He did testify fully there. If this Committee has also got the power to call him again to repeat that, Mr Chairman, then I'll accept that, ...

Let’s go on then to talk about your son, Thamsanqa and the fact that he left your house in - on a Sunday in 1990 on the day of now President Nelson Mandela’s ...

should not examine me, he should just give me an injection and also pain tablets. Then they took me back to the cell and they were telling me that Mandela was not going to do anything for me, I was trying to make myself Jesus Christ, dying for other peoples sins. Then they took me and they ...

Okay, so you feel that it’s a community concern more than a concern for you - okay. Then just lastly Hennie has made - there is reference made to him in the long walk to freedom the book by Nelson Mandela - what was the reference, what - what was it about?

... to join the struggle and if it was necessary to kill, I was going to kill, but if they were not, I was not going to. I know that after President Mandela took over, IFP and ANC were now in good relationships. I think I was going to take part in that process as well, like they are ...

MR MOTLOKWA: Moleleki was a new section, people who moved in there were from Mandela Park, others came from Polla Park, others were renting back rooms in different sections, now they came to Moleleki to form a section and then they formed an SDU.

The people wanted to have elections, even today if Gen George Meiring can dethrone Pres Mandela there would be people who would be objecting to that, because they would be objecting to the military rule, because they would be fighting against unilateral rule.

He said that as a member of the African National Congress ("ANC"), he joined the Self Defence Unit (SDU) in what became to be known as the Mandela Informal Settlement. He testified that the nearby hostel housed many members of the Inkatha Freedom Party ("IFP"). It is well known that there was ...

... negotiations. These announcements included the unbanning of the ANC, the SACP and other organisations and the release of prisoners, including Mr Mandela. ...

... in 1990 between April and June at a late stage of the struggle against apartheid. It was submitted that the release of former President Nelson Mandela had nothing to do with the armed combats, but that in fact the incidents referred to above and other similar incidents facilitated the CODESA ...

... you are going to ...[no English translation] ...[transcribers own translation] tell the people that he was involved in a plot to murder President Mandela. That is the threat you made to ...

By that time, to make mention of Elsie, I could also make mention of many more, people like Lawrence was shot by the police. The child from the Lusunsi and Karambe family who was run by a car, the White man car while the people were helping after the release of Mandela.

MR RAMMATLA: It took time because he was treated at home. It was a long time and after that he died, and the time he died he was always saying that he was going to be better, because during that time of the ANC, when Mandela took over, he went to Pretoria but he needed crutches to walk.

MR NONGENA: I, I don’t want to continue now, but the white man in Robben Island also ill-treated me. When, after we had been sentenced in Robben Island, by the time Mandela got into jail we were there already, being ill-treated and tortured

MR RAMMUTLA: It took time because he was treated at home. It was a long time and after that he died, and the time he died he was always saying that he was going to be better, because during that time of the ANC, when Mandela took over, he went to Pretoria but he needed crutches to walk.

... they were arrested in 1985 and they were sent to Middelburg Cape. Then after that they were arrested. I am sure they got out of the prison after Mandela was released from prison, then they were also released. One of them was going to be hanged, I don’t know what saved him, his name is Tifo ...

... former leaders of MK so that throughout the week we’ll be trying to assemble a picture which will assist us in making our final report to President Mandela and of course to Parliament, which is demanded of ...