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ADV DU PLESSIS: And Mr Mamasela, Colonel Venter testified in his amnesty application that it was normal procedure for Vlakplaas to visit certain areas to assist the Security Branch there with finding of terrorists and identifying terrorists, because ascaris may have known some of these people, they ...

MR MZIMELA: It was Saturday morning on the 29th. I was with my late brothers, Sabani Manglagayiso Philemon. We took a bus to Empangeni. We were going to buy some stuff which we needed for the funeral of Gerald. The bus stopped next to Mr Gumede's house and I saw Mr Gumede outside his yard and ...

MR MNGONA: I didn't lay any charges, because things were bad at the time. Even in the community, the police would come and visit me and see if there was something that I was doing.

but it was obvious where there were cases where the State President, during a visit or during a discussions

MR BUBELO: It could be possible. I would visit for a different purpose, I would visit the family for a different purpose.

CHAIRPERSON: Well let me digress a bit. Then, and I don't mean to pose awkward questions to you, I just need to clarify it in my own mind. If it be a ...(indistinct) that was developed in the realms of moral wars, that you consider yourself with the injuries caused by the activities of MK and ...

After some time, in 1991, one PAC member, Innocent, was arrested or got arrested for AK47 magazine and he was arrested in Durban at the PAC offices. After his arrest, I frequented the prison to go visit and see him. I will always see this Police who was handling the case of Innocent and the very ...

MR HATTINGH: No, I don't remember that visit.

We know that he had contact with Kagiso, his uncle living there. Now we know Mr Musi mentions a visit which Mr Mfalapitsa paid in essence Mr Musi's mother and the family at some stage. Mr Mfalapitsa on the other hand, that is the first meeting on the Musi version. The first meeting on the ...

MR HATTINGH: Can you recall, Mr De Kock, how long before the Maponya incident did he visit you?

MR MADLALA: We were coming from the hospital to visit my uncle, Gweni. On our way from the hospital we went to the taxi rank, that is where we met Christopher Phewa in the company of the other people who were not known to me. There was a conflict among us. Happy, the one who is a co-accused was ...

MR WILLS: You're not aware of anything, any visit to their house by members of the security branch on the 20th of July 1990?

MS KIVA: It was on a Saturday, it was on a Saturday. Andile went to visit his friends in Dubane. They were chased away by the soldiers. They found him, they assaulted him with rifle butts. The took him to the police station. When they arrived there they assaulted him. In the morning they took ...

We went to a hunger strike. We were engaged in a hunger strike. Some of us were not strong enough and they became ill. That is when I was also affected. I suffered from stomach aches. It would be difficult for me to eat again, I would vomit. I had pimples all over my body. In prison there ...

MR DEHAL: However thereafter, for protocol reasons, you and Tshika agreed that Tshika would visit you about once a week for briefings?

MR GOUWS: Yes, I did not visit a bank. I have visited many banks, but not this one.

MR LALLA: He asked me I never found time to visit his family.

MR BIZOS: And how did you treat the District Surgeons who were supposed to visit these detainees and report on their conditions?

MS MKHIZE: I would like you to explain your story before the Commission. On the 28th February 1992, it was early in the morning, nine o'clock. When we woke up we saw a blue Cressida, there were three people inside the car. We know one of the occupants of the car because he was staying opposite ...

MR BELLINGAN: No, all that would have happened is that they would have asked me to send my people for statements and my own statement and that was all. I did not go to visit Mr Brits or anything like that.