Special Report Transcript Episode 42, Section 2, Time 04:23

I want to know, you’ve been flaunting the idea that you will now go … // Antjie Samuel of the SABC Radio. // Sorry, I’m Antjie Samuel of the SABC Radio. You are flaunting the idea that you are now going also to investigate ANC atrocities. What exactly are you doing at this stage? Do you have say, for instance a person in every region, or do you have a group that look after them? Are you going to focus as well on high profile cases like you are doing with the police? // Yes, I must correct the view that we have not been doing any investigations of those human rights violations cases that have been brought to our attention relevant to ANC people. There have been ongoing investigations. In fact, as you possibly know, one of the major showcases, which would have shown ANC activists involved in human rights violations against IFP people, has had to be cancelled because I am told there hasn’t been much cooperation from the IFP side. But besides that, the section 29 inquiries which are the in camera inquiries are being reviewed in the light of the AD decision. The AD decision does not only require us to give people adequate notice, it now requires us to give them all the information at our disposal and I’m asking as an investigator whether it makes sense to make available all of your information for purposes of investigations. We are looking at the idea of using section 29 to subpoena people but bring them to a public hearing. // You have worked well with the Attorneys-General in pushing people to come forward and apply for amnesty in the case of the police and you are also working with the Defence Force. You don’t get that idea, that there is a concerted effort to push the ANC to apply for amnesty. // On the contrary. I mean, when they went to Cape Town just about a month ago, I think to clear certain things about the whole conceptualization of the just war and what have you, they made very clear there that they are compiling a very consolidated list of people who would be applying for amnesty. There’s no question of it, they are coming. But we are proactive in the regions themselves, the regional heads of investigation units in the regions have been instructed to compile a consolidated list and that list is going to be consolidated at the national office for purposes of subpoenaing people in the ANC.

Notes: Antjie Samuel; Dumisa Ntsebeza

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