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| 02:00 | On Monday Matthew Selhwana was the first person to ask for amnesty for his role in the deaths of 6 ANC cadres who attempted to infiltrate the country from Botswana in 1986. Selhwana was an informer for the Pietersburg security branch during the eighties. | Full Transcript and References |
| 02:20 | It was during 1986, I was working with my contacts from Botswana and Kenya. One of my contacts by the name of Ata Mabena, he was a person that used to visit in Botswana. One day I met him at a place where we used to meet at the border. He gave me information that he met one ANC member who told him that they are looking for someone who can help to transport people from other countries, from Botswana, those were Mk soldiers, to infiltrate the country, South Africa. | Full Transcript |
| 03:19 | We knew that they had need of transport and we knew that they were 6 and that they were armed. With the result that we saw our duty as getting to them before they escaped us. So it would have been a risk from a security point of view to let these people enter and to later get hold of them. And we then realized that the only way to do it was by means of a road barricade to stop them and in such a way and a show of force that we will be able to actually arrest them. If something went wrong, if for instance they returned fire or opened fire, in other words they resisted arrest, the people entering the country then I’d be glad to shoot, absolutely. | Full Transcript |
| 04:24 | The roadblock would be about 15 kilometers from the Botswana border in a drift on the Breslau road which is surrounded by heavy bush. 38 Police and soldiers would surround the scene and present a show of force. Sehlwana would drive the cadres to this point, stop abruptly and then a gas grenade would be held into the kombi. At the same time, a hidden caspir would block the road. | Full Transcript |
| 04:53 | When I arrived at the drift I slammed the brakes, pushed the door open and jumped out and I ran along the drift. From there I didn’t see what happened but I just heard the sound of guns, shots fired. | Full Transcript |
| 05:15 | I heard the shot and I saw that the passenger in the left front seat, fired a shot with a hand arm, with the door a little bit open. He fired one shot in the direction of Captain Mike Bourne. I saw Captain Mike Bourne falling down to the ground. At that stage the five of us in the caspir regained our balance and as arranged in case of shooting we would fire back. When I started firing all the members in the caspir with me also started firing. How many shots each person fired I don’t know but I personally fired about a magazine and a half, it’s about 20 to 30 shots into the kombi. | Full Transcript |
| 06:36 | By the end of the shootout five of the cadres were dead and one was heavily wounded. He was then interrogated. | Full Transcript |
| 06:48 | The person who asked these questions it was Tokkie Fuchs and the others around there we just listened. After some time Tokkie Fuchs took out a gun and shot that man to death. | Full Transcript |
| 07:16 | You heard what Matthews Selhwana had said. He said that after you questioned him you took out a pistol pressed it against his chest and shot him. // That is definitely not the case. | Full Transcript |
| 07:33 | For most of the applicants they’d acted in the line of duty, but the families of Lenepa Montgomery Moloi, Walter Titus Alset and Thlabane Mogoshoa were unprepared for the way their soldier sons returned. This week they visited the shooting scene to try to understand what for them remain senseless deaths. | Full Transcript |
| 08:13 | I feel bad. This is horrible. You wouldn’t expect a man, a civilized man to do an act like this. You can just see the vicinity of this place, the chances are very limited. No one can escape from here. Even if you can just take two policemen or three they can shoot the whole six. And they had a whole bloody army around this place. | Full Transcript |
| 08:39 | He was sixteen years old when he left in 1976, a brilliant boy, a brilliant boy. Anyway, today I have mixed feelings. First of all I would like to congratulate the TRC for bringing the truth forth. At least now my family is consoled because we know that the person we buried was my brother. I’m accepting it now that yes he’s gone. And other unfortunate families I think should also come forth now to find out about their unknown little ones. | Full Transcript |
| 09:20 | They are the people who went to fetch these people and they are not telling the truth, because every time they talk of arresting but they never attempted to arrest, they just straight away killed. | Full Transcript |
| 09:36 | This was a setup to really murder our children. I mean, if they came into the country illegally they should have been given a chance at least to be tried. But for them to be killed like that, like vermin, absolute vermin was a terrible thing. | Full Transcript |
