Special Report Transcript Episode 68, Section 2, Time 12:17

Then you went back to Vlakplaas where you gave orders to Martinus Ras, Snyman and Vermeulen to prepare for the operation. What precisely did you tell them? // I can’t give you specific details, but the gist of it was that people would be killed and specifically that policemen would be killed. // You worked on the basis that you gave orders and they executed them and that you were prepared to accept the responsibility and consequences on behalf of your men? // Yes. // And is that still your feeling today? // Yes, I take full responsibility from myself downward, for all my men’s actions, but not for those above me – not anymore. // Did you also expect the same from people who gave you orders? // Yes, I wrongly believed the hierarchy had integrity and moral fibre.

Notes: Hugo; De Kock

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