Special Report Transcript Episode 68, Section 3, Time 21:54

I think with Magoo’s, you know we had a certain philosophy – after every activity that we did, after every action we would tell ourselves that it never happened, it was just a nightmare – it never happened. And you would sort of conscientise yourself to deaden that memory. It was a horrible situation. But you must remember when you’re going into the armed struggle and you’re telling yourself I am ready now to use violence to the extent that others would be injured or even die for that matter. You really do go on a level that, on the one hand you’re saying it’s an honour as a soldier I’m going that high; but it’s also a dishonour, because violence is something unreasonable. I read once that violence is the lowest form of human behaviour. Actually, Robert was very emotional after that incident, contrary to what the people have made him out to be, and OK what he’s made himself out to be. This is what he hates me talk about, because he’s this big, macho man you see. But he was a man just like every other man, a soldier just like every other that starts becoming – maybe that Vietnam syndrome – where they start to become extremely depressed, because of what they had done. And we were actually in hiding in Hillbrow at the time and he used to wake up at two, three o’clock in the morning and he used to cry and cry; his whole body would be in a ball bent over. And he used to sob and I knew what it was, but being the macho man I could never go and comfort him or question him.

Notes: Zharah Narkedien