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Transcripts for Section 3 of Episode 73
| Time | Summary | | | 18:44 | Tomorrow Mamasela and the other askaris will give their version of what happened on that dark day in 1985. Let’s introduce you now to one of the people who drive the truth commission process, Truth Commissioner Glenda Wildschut. | Full Transcript | | 19:02 | I was born in District Six. I was born in a little maternity hospital which is near Constitution Street, right in the centre of District Six. My father and my grandparents and so on all grew up in District Six. In fact my grandmother was one of the first people to be removed from District Six and went to live in Bonteheuwel. And then of course my parents moved to Athlone and that’s where I spent about nine years of my life, on the Cape Flats. And then when I started my training as a nurse I moved back to town, back to District Six where I did my midwifery at the same hospital where I was born. So in a sense I came full circle. | Full Transcript | | 19:43 | Not many people know that Glenda Wildschut trained as a singer, but instead of a diva she became a nurse. She qualified as a psychiatric nurse after studying in Britain and the US. On her return to South Africa she took charge of a psychiatric unit in the Cape hospital and worked there for nine years before taking up an academic post. | Full Transcript | | 20:05 | I became known, especially in the Western Cape, as the person to contact if cadres got injured or people were in danger in some kind of way. As you know many people couldn’t go to hospitals because they were at risk of being arrested. So, my little house became a little hospital or clinic and many times my kitchen was turned into an operating theatre as people came for buckshot and birdshot wounds, repairs and so on. So I was involved in that kind of activity and particularly in counselling so I’ve counselled hundreds and hundreds of cadres who were struggling with all kinds of issues. | Full Transcript | | 20:50 | Cape Town based Wildschut is a member of the Truth Commission’s Committee on Reparation and Rehabilitation. | Full Transcript | | 21:00 | While I was teaching at the university I was asked by the African National Congress Military wing, the military health section, to be involved in the integration of the statutory and what was called the non-statutory forces particularly the health workers involved. So I spent the entire lifespan of the Transitional Executive Council doing that and coach head the placement board; so together with someone from the then SADF and from MK. And I was just settling down back in my university post and I had a small private practice as well when I was nominated to become a Truth Commissioner. | Full Transcript | | 21:54 | Since the completion of Human Rights Violations hearings the work of the R&R Committee has intensified as commissioners look back over all the cases that have come before then in order to make findings about victims and their needs. It’s tiring and sad work, but not entirely without compensation. | Full Transcript | | 22:12 | I think it was about two weeks ago when we were able to put the final dot on our Reparations Policy, because that has been worrying me quite a bit. I was very concerned that perpetrators were getting amnesty and in a sense to be seen to be going free and victims were still suffering and without any hope of getting some reparations and now we’re able to say we have completed the policy and soon people will at least be seeing the urgent interim relief being granted. So that for me was a high moment. | Full Transcript | | 22:55 | But there have also been many lows. // I remember at a hearing when somebody talked about just walking daily with her child down the street and so on and this most overwhelming sense of sadness… I just felt I wanted to weep no end. And often I think it’s when things resonate with one and often it’s when women talked about their children that I would become extremely moved by that. And that’s probably to do with my own sense of wanting to be a mother and so on and so forth. So I think that that often sort of grabbed me. Why would I feel so sad when it’s really not a sad story right now? I think as a Commission we, as colleagues, when we really – at a time when we needed to be supportive of each other – perhaps were not. And when we fought about things that perhaps we didn’t need to fight about, that caused me a lot of grief. And that was early days and it was to be understood, because I think we were a diverse group of people who were brought together and we really had ...more | Full Transcript | | 24:42 | After the short break the moving story of the secret graves and an interview with Truth Commissioner Dumisa Ntsebeza. // ‘After the break // MK Heroes’ secret graves // Dumisa Ntsebeza talks about the plot to frame him.’ | Full Transcript |
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