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Special Report
Transcripts for Section 4 of Episode 75

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37:53We believe that the Uniting Reformed Church, even in its existence as a former Mission Church and Dutch Reformed Church in Africa, did not do enough in opposing apartheid, did not do enough in speaking clearly against the evils of apartheid.Full Transcript and References
38:17‘Ek wil ‘n beroep doen op die NG Kerk familie, dis die vier apartheids kerke, dat hulle sigbaarheid moet verleen aan die eenheid van Christus, nie vir mense nie, dat hulle sigbaarheid moet verleen aan die eenheid van Christus dat ons nie die volgende millennium in moet gaan as ‘n verdeelde gereformeerde belydende familie nie’ [I want to appeal to the Dutch Reformed Church family, that is the four apartheid churches, to make visible the unity of Christ, not of people; that they make visible the unity of Christ so that we don’t enter the new millennium as a divided reformed communicant family].Full Transcript
38:43Then the big moment arrived. After months of infighting and debate NG Kerk moderator Freek Swanepoel finally faced the TRC. He immediately declared that he could not speak for all the members of his church.Full Transcript
38:58The movement for reconciliation is growing in our church on ground level. The church also continually and with empathy focused on the large numbers of people who were unjustly disadvantaged during the times of apartheid and to assist them in their poverty and suffering. A lack of understanding and willingness and disobedience among members and officials with regard to the need in the community… Full Transcript and References
39:32The number of applicants who come before the Amnesty Committee of the Commission to apply for amnesty and who in their testimony to the Amnesty Committee actually blame the teachings of their church and say that they were misled by their church into believing that the things that they did were actually in the service of the interest of the gospel of Jesus Christ, that the church blessed their weapons of terror, that the church ministered to them, encouraged them.Full Transcript
40:20We had indeed taught our people wrongly with regard to apartheid as a biblical instruction. If you teach them that this is the way of the Bible, in fact you instruct them how they should act and in this regard certainly the church has confessed that it is guilty and we are experiencing an inner struggle to change around and turn around in this regard. When a person appears before you, applying for amnesty, it is indeed true that he can say that this gospel was taught to him in this way. Certainly there had been different messages sent at a later stage, but people can certainly make this claim.Full Transcript
41:10I’m so glad that you have seen the light and we know, we could almost say to the devil. Watch out, hier kom die NG Kerk [here comes the NG Kerk].Full Transcript
41:29In stark contrast really to what have taken place in the business sector hearings where on the whole you found people in a self justifying mode. Here, extraordinarily, virtually every single one of those who testified from the different faith communities and the different Christian denominations started off from the premise that they had done wrong. They confessed and it was heartfelt that they asked for forgiveness and you know that put a different slant on things and had a significant impact on the atmosphere that prevailed throughout the three days.Full Transcript
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