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D’ATH, GeorgeAge Description You did nothing unlawful. You helped colleagues whom you had a duty to assist and you assisted them. // That is correct. // Therefore you did no wrong. // That is correct. // Then why on earth did you apply for amnesty for an assault which you did not commit? // As I’ve already said I used ... There is a perception amongst NGO’s and amongst certain members of the legal fraternity that a large degree of impunity exists in KwaZulu-Natal in terms of the lack of prosecutions and a lack of convictions. What’s your response to that? // I would like an opportunity to discuss that with the ... There’s a difference, is there, between killing people in war and killing people by assassin. // There is Mr. Chairman, there is. // Is that a form of your conservative party logic Mr. Derby-Lewis? // Mr. Chairman, assassination is an act of war, it can occur during a war situation. // Murder is ... The Hani lawyers asked why the applicants had remained silent about the existence of these records. They said it showed that the applicants were not making a full disclosure. // I want to read, firstly to hand in, copies of a letter on president counsel letterheads written by Mr. Derby-Lewis to the ... We oppose the applications of all the applicants for amnesty Mr Chairman and members of the Committee. And want to say at the outset that we do so primarily because we consider their applications an attempt to clear their names with a self defence story in order that the record should be expunged, ... Did you lie to your attorney? // I did Mr. Chairman. // Nobody compelled you to lie to your attorney? // No one compelled me Mr. Chairman except for the fact that I was busy with an armed struggle and I was determined to give as much opposition as possible under any circumstances. // What support ... Your evidence was that Col Snyman reported that there was discussion at the JMC in which the Defence Force people put in the JMC, put the security police under pressure and suggested that the security police were unable to stabilize the position. Do you recall that? // Yes. // Now ... of this ... … Because in my mind a murder docket is never closed, it is always alive and it will receive attention sporadically. Mr van Zyl, 63 stab wounds were inflicted on the four people you murdered on the night of the 27th 1985. Do you agree with the District Surgeon’s report with that? // I cannot disagree with that Mr Chairman. // Do you agree that the 63 stab wounds is evidence of barbaric conduct? // Mr ... So you are telling me that the South African police service is involved, or has been at least in this occasion, on oiling the palms, greasing the palms of convicted murderers for the purpose of establishing a case against somebody else. // The investigators indicated to me that it was very ... One disappointing thing for many people in George is the fact that PW Botha, after the magistrate had made his ruling, went on record as saying that he doesn’t feel it necessary to apologise for anything outside the courtroom where people from Lawaaikamp, from Pacaltsdorp, from Thembulethu from ... Comrade Mzwai Philiso, he was the head of the ANC Intelligence and Security he said I know the guy so he sent people from Zambia to debrief me. The brief last about a week in a motel outside Harare. I was asked questions, everything from sexual inclination, from my birth, my schooling, my ... Hello. A warm welcome back to the Special Report after an absence of six weeks. Today we concentrate on two of the most controversial public figures in our country: PW Botha and Winnie Madikizela-Mandela. Botha’s appearance before a black magistrate in George last week, after his refusal to ... Thobeko Maseko’s husband, Nelson became unpopular with the ANC Youth League when he criticized them for marching a girl naked through the Plettenberg township in March 1990. // This young man went for him, the three of them Sishuba, Tyki and Sabata. There’s a fourth one whom I didn’t know but ... Hello. Our main focus tonight is on the four cabinet ministers who appeared before the Truth Commission this past week. But we also have a report on the role that Intelezi, some people call it muti, plays in a conflict in KwaZulu-Natal. Let me introduce you to the four actors who starred in this ... That’s the end of tonight’s Special Report. The Truth Commission will have sessions in Umtata and George this coming week. Goodnight. Alright, you want to go back to… // No simply I think the George Bizos example’s good, also for the Biko killers. We heard these probing questions and unlike the original so-called inquest where half the stuff couldn’t be brought out, at least the public… and I take Herman’s point that it ... Walter Smiles’ unexpected confession created more questions than answers. The two men in jail for the attack believe they were wrongfully convicted. // I formulated a story so that I can be saved from the oppression. Van der … came after I’ve agreed to their story and then they said they ... Right next to the Magistrate’s Court and the area where the people demonstrated is the George Museum. A large part of the Museum is taken up by an exhibition of the life of PW Botha, but this exhibition will not remain untouched for long. This was the week the Archbishop and the big crocodile had rooibos tee and worsrolletjies [rooibos tea and sausage rolls] together. They even held hands. // How was the meeting gentlemen? // Well, it doesn’t seem that we’re cross with each other. // No, we had a good meeting and I’m not going ... |
