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KOCK, MMAge Description I’m a little disappointed that Mrs. de Kock did not make use of her prerogative, to pick up the phone, not deal with officials, if her perception was that officials were obstructing her, but to deal directly with the elected councillors. Having said that I want to give you the assurance and give ... Casselton did not disappear. He went to live on Vlakplaas where his friend, Eugene de Kock looked after him. It was during this time, De Kock claims, that Craig Williamson wanted him to kill Casselton. ... false passports, a car, a hide-out compartment to hide the weapons which we are going to use there. And then they went in, we followed them, De Kock and other people, Pienaar from Piet Retief. We went in, they followed us and then there was a certain informer of Pienaar of Piet Retief; he ... ... the next three weeks, at least these six are going to tell stories which are going to be very similar in gravity to that what we’ve heard from De Kock. ... other prisoners. But watchdog groups like the Human Rights Commission have other concerns. There’s a big question mark about who goes to C Max. De Kock for instance was sent to C Max a few days after he had been upgraded to an A group prisoner for model ... Eugene de Kock has now been removed from society for a long time, or has he? What are his chances of amnesty? And that of Clive Derby-Lewis and Janusz Walus, the men who murdered Chris Hani? ... // So far the statement, perhaps I should give a little bit of background. We’ve heard evidence from people like Dirk Coetzee and Eugene de Kock that they learned to incinerate the bodies of guerrillas while stationed in Rhodesia. But our statement in the February programme was understood ... By now Vlakplaas is known as the shadowy space where hit men like Eugene de Kock, Joe Mamasela, Dirk Coetzee and Almond Nofemela freely roamed and secretly planned their killer missions against the opponents of the apartheid state. Little is known though of the assassinations in their own ranks; of ... Col Eugene, he must go to the ‘tronk’ [jail] because we are suffering so many times and years ago you know. // I feel terrible for De Kock, you know, because I can hear that he feels so sorry about everything he’d done. // No amnesty for the killers. Eugene de Kock expressed the desire to meet with the families of the dead policemen. They granted him the opportunity, but at both De Kock’s and the family’s insistence, their encounter was a private one. ... the best possible behaviour. It allows you contact visits and it’s earned. Now if this person had earned A group status. // Is this Eugene de Kock? // That’s right. Notwithstanding the horrors of the crimes that he’d committed; if he’d earned A group status on the criteria that the ... ... white, and not David Tshikalanga and Albert Nofemela too, I can’t say. Why, in the Motherwell case, in the Magnus Malan trial, in the Eugene de Kock trial perpetrators had stood up for the truth was used as state witnesses and Dirk Coetzee who is the first one and so far, the only one, the ... But as De Kock went his way to a grim life in a small cell one could not help wonder about the politicians and the generals who made this monster possible and rewarded him with medal after medal. // He must not be made to be the fore guy, that if we are going to heal then the whole truth must come ... I feel terrible for De Kock, you know, because I can hear he feels so sorry about everything he did. They may well be interested parties who would have been or who even did try to prevail upon De Kock not to talk. I am more than satisfied on reports that I have that there are clearly interested parties who would have preferred that he does not talk. He is now giving evidence under oath. He gives ... Oh I feel relieved, especially for Mr. De Kock, what he says. He impressed me really. In fact, he impressed me from day one of the trial, because he speaks the truth. I feel relieved especially for mister De Kock, he has impressed me really. In fact he impressed from day one of the trial because he speaks the truth. Eugene de Kock also named former president PW Botha as a man who was directly involved, who gave orders; who had intimate knowledge. Can the Truth Commission afford not to call Mr. PW Botha? // I don’t think we can afford not to call him quite frankly. // But he has said that he won’t come. ... ... in the murder and said at the Harms Commission that he read about the murder in the newspaper. // Evidence was recently led in the Eugene de Kock case that he and his men killed the fourth member of the death squad. Brian Ngqulunga was shot dead in July 1990, because he wanted to confess ... He was a close friend of Eugene de Kock and of Craig Williamson and like his two friends he now wants the Truth Commission to grant him amnesty. But before that can happen, Peter Casselton will have to do a lot of explaining. |
