MORE, Abraham (aka Happy Batho)

... with journalist, author and former newspaper editor Donald Woods, director of human resources at Spoornet Maki Mandela, IFP member of parliament Abraham Mzizi and UCT academic and political commentator Herman Giliomee. The second segment provides a profile of Truth Commissioner Rev. Khoza ...

Looking back over last two years of the TRC in a discussion with Donald Woods, Maki Mandela, Abraham Mzizi and Herman Giliomee

Let me ask Abraham Mzizi in Cape Town, do you think there has been a value in exposing things like Vlakplaas, the CCB, the horrors that we didn’t know. Do you think that there is a value to you as a citizen knowing those things now? // Max, nevertheless, yes, some people did not know anything ...

Did I hear a comment from Cape Town? Did you come in Mr. Mzizi? May I have a quick word from you before I go to Donald Woods? // I feel that the process is one sided in that even if probably everyone should have been invited, whether these has been actually engineered by ANC. We did not oppose ...

Mr. Mzizi your view on reconciliation. // Yes, if I may chip in there. Max, who are we reconciling? We have failed utterly to reconcile the people if we are saying that. If probably … // Maybe that is the question. Who should we be reconciling? Are we talking about black people and white people ...

Well let’s go straight to you in Cape Town to Mr. Mzizi, the perceptions in your part of the world and in your specific political party, could you talk about that to us, the IFP’s perception? Has it been one sided, has it been fair? // Well Max, I think you have hit the nail when you say it has ...

I don’t know, I told you just now I don’t know nothing about it. The first I know about it is when these people, a month ago, two months … two months ago they were on the farm and they asked permission to come and have a look if there are new graves, or whatever. That’s all.

Why don’t you take the phone and just phone? // That’s what I’ve told you told, now I’m telling you that we are coming to take the three bodies which you have allowed to be buried here …We are not yet finished, we have not even started. // OK, carry on!

For Mabel Makolane, mother of Abraham Makolane none of the young men deserved their deaths and for her and the other parents she spoke for neither do these men deserve forgiveness or amnesty. // I don’t have reconciliation. As they’ve taken them from my place to the place where they’ve killed ...

Abraham and Elisa Mntuze’s ten year old son Phinda was playing in the street when he was shot by the then mayor of Maokeng, Caswell Koekoe in Kroonstad in 1986. The court later found that nobody could be held responsible for his death. // They discovered that he had been shot three times. Two ...

... But let’s get down with the rest of the programme. First thank you very much to Donald Woods, Maki Mandela and in Cape Town Herman Giliomee and Abraham Mzizi, thank you very ...

... the opposition, the criticism of that is, what you’re talking about is the opening up of wounds and that is what Herman Giliomee has said and Abraham Mzizi …. // The wounds were wide open. In fact, if anything, this has helped to some extend to cleanse them I think. The criticism that oh ...

... to the existence of our new dispensation. It all started because Pondo people striked the way that we did. … a commission was set up led by Mr. Abraham coming from Pretoria, concerned as to what bothered us. We then told him that we did not want eavesdroppers, who were the Boers at the time. ...

... Dr Maki Mandela, director of human resources at Spoornet and Donald Woods, journalist, author and former newspaper editor. In Cape Town we have Mr. Abraham Mzizi, IFP member of parliament and Professor Herman Giliomee, UCT academic and political commentator. Good evening to you all. Maybe we ...

This is how the far whites’ right wing would start its war on South Africa, by cutting off the country’s power supply and plunging it into darkness. For the Boere Weerstands Beweging war was the only way to halt the future it feared: rule by a majority government. In 1993 while political ...

In 1993 right wingers Leon Froneman and Pieter Harmse, both members of the Boere Weerstands Beweging placed a bomb in an Indian owned shopping complex at Bronkhorstspruit in Gauteng.