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VAN RENSBURG, (first name not given)Age Description ... of the tablets in the coffee and I gave it to them to drink. // Did you collect branches and tree trunks? // Yes that is correct. // You and Mr. Van Rensburg, or was it you and Mr. Van Rensburg who carried them out? // Mr. Van Rensburg and I carried them out. // Did you then shoot Siphiwo ... ... body was burnt. // That’s not true. We did braai meat before Mr Kondile was shot and we ate before he was shot. // I finally put it to you Mr Van Rensburg that your behaviour and the behaviour of your fellow policemen exceeded the bounds of decency and that you are not entitled to amnesty ... ... a policeman for many years. Your duty was to maintain law and order, is that right? // That is correct. // To in fact bring criminals to justice, not to yourself participate in criminal activity. // That is correct. // Through these perceptions of yours you were able to make the step, from ... Your evidence was that Col Snyman reported that there was discussion at the JMC in which the Defence Force people put in the JMC, put the security police under pressure and suggested that the security police were unable to stabilize the position. Do you recall that? // Yes. // Now ... of this ... Friday because I had to go and testify on Monday. The Friday before I went to testify there was a meeting in General Engelbrecht’s office and Nick van Rensburg was also there and De Kock was there, a lot of guys were there. Concern was raised about Brian Ngqulunga’s behaviour and his drinking ... ... different places along the Eastern Cape coastline. Who killed the Cradock Four? The Special Report has been asking that question since our very first broadcast in April 1996 when we showed their widows testifying before the Human Rights Violations Committee. Last week we covered the story of ... Nic van Rensburg is the security branch boss who ordered the killing. In 1989 Vlakplaas fell directly under his command, as did Gideon Niewoudt, security branch head in the Eastern Cape. Niewoudt is the man responsible for planting the explosives. In 1996 he was sentenced to 20 years for the ... ... Kondile was lying on his back shot him on top of the head. There was a short jerk and that was it. The four junior non-commission officers Paul van Dyk, sergeant Jan from Col Nick van Rensburg’s branch and the two Ermelo men each grabbed a hand and a foot, put it onto the pile of tyre and ... ... Coetzee was supposed to testify this week, but he was prevented by legal technicalities. This is what he would have told the Commission. // Nick van Rensburg and his men poisoned him upon release, poisoned him and apparently he did not add enough poison according to Brigadier Jan du Preez, who ... of Eastern Cape student leader Siphiwo Mtimkulu and his friend Topsy Madaka. General Gerrit Erasmus who gave the order for the killing; General Nick van Rensburg, a multiple killer who assassinated one of the young men; Colonel Hermanus du Plessis, co-conspirator; and Colonel Gideon Niewoudt, also ... ... be addressed. He wanted to know why these people weren’t being prosecuted, what the problem was and why people responsible for the violence could not be brought to court. Mr Snyman apparently answered that lawful action simply had no effect any longer and that witnesses were simply not ... But from your application and the application of Mr. Niewoudt the suggestion is that Brig Gilbert got the OK as it were. Is my understanding correct? // That is correct. // Mr. Gilbert is no longer here to tell us exactly how that happened. // That is correct. In summary what was the story? // He told me that some of the black members of the PE Security Branch had been recruited by the ANC and had access to sensitive information that they wanted to give to the ANC. Mr. Snyman told me that he had a private conversation with Minister Le Grange and that Le Grange had told him that the situation in the Eastern Province needed attention and should be addressed. Because I did not have any part in it. // If you say that you didn’t have any part in it, that’s now personally, do you have any knowledge of it? // No I didn’t have any knowledge of it. // Before I told you what thallium poison was more or less did you know anything about it? // No your ... And Mr Coetzee then made the suggestion that if we did not the body to be found then he suggested that we burnt out the body. They had wood, a great deal of wood was available and that we should rather burn the body and they would ensure that the remains would be thrown into the Komati River. And ... Back to the amnesty process now. Four Eastern Cape Security Policemen this week told the amnesty committee that Port Elizabeth activist Sizwe Kondile had to be eliminated because he was a trained ANC terrorist who knew too much about their intelligence network. The men all claim that they were ... Sakkie van Zyl, former member of Koevoet and then a captain said he was also given details on how the attack should be carried out. // Will you please tell about that? // Col Van Rensburg proposed or gave order that the attack should appear as if it was a vigilante or AZAPO attack, in other words ... ... of our husbands and children got thrown here in plastic bags our God, by the Boers. Forces that had immense power like Niewoudt our God, like Van Rensburg our God; forces that imposed tyranny…’ ... But Mister Justice Van Rensburg did not accept the East German analogy. Although he found they acted under orders of Brigadier Gilbert and General Van Rensburg, also mentioned in the Mtimkulu case, Judge Van Rensburg sentenced Niewoudt to twenty years imprisonment and the other two to 15 and 10 ... |
