ON RESUMPTION
CHAIRPERSON: What language do you prefer to speak?
MR VAN DYK: Afrikaans, Chairperson.
CHAIRPERSON: Do you have any objection to taking the oath?
P J VAN DYK: (sworn states)
CHAIRPERSON: Please be seated.
EXAMINATION BY MS VAN DER WALT: Mr van Dyk, you are the third applicant and your application runs from page 25 to page 27, is that correct?
MR VAN DYK: Yes, Chairperson.
MS VAN DER WALT: And the incident, from page 28 to 29, and your political motivation is on page 30 to page 36 - 37.
MR VAN DYK: Correct.
MS VAN DER WALT: You've heard the evidence of Mr van Rensburg as well as Mr Rorich, do you agree with it as far as it relates to you?
MR VAN DYK: Yes, Chairperson.
MS VAN DER WALT: You heard Mr Rorich's evidence that Mr Hattingh, that his courage failed him when he had to plant the bomb at the wooden house and he gave the bomb to you to plant the bomb?
MR VAN DYK: That is correct. I wouldn't say that his courage failed him completely, I think perhaps he didn't want to carry on with the operation, but after we spoke we then together, both of us went to the wooden house.
MS VAN DER WALT: How did you know exactly to which house you should go?
MR VAN DYK: The premises were pointed out to me by Mr Rorich.
MS VAN DER WALT: You also agree that Mr van Rensburg, as he mentions on page 6 and 7, gave you the order to go along.
MR VAN DYK: Yes, Chairperson.
MS VAN DER WALT: Where were you stationed in that time?
MR VAN DYK: At Magaliesburg.
MS VAN DER WALT: Would you know where Mr Coetzee was stationed at that stage?
MR VAN DYK: I'm not sure if it was Middelburg or Vlakplaas. I think it was in 1980. I can't dispute that it might have been 1980, because it was a long time ago.
MS VAN DER WALT: You say you don't know whether he was in Middelburg or where?
MR VAN DYK: I'm not sure whether it was there or at Vlakplaas.
MS VAN DER WALT: Do you also ask for an amendment that the incident could have taken place in June 1980?
MR VAN DYK: Yes, those are the indications, so I will go along with that.
MS VAN DER WALT: And you're also asking the Honourable Committee to grant for conspiracy to kill.
MR VAN DYK: Yes, Chairperson.
MS VAN DER WALT: As well as for two charges of murder.
MR VAN DYK: That's correct.
MS VAN DER WALT: Did you later learn that a person and a child were killed?
MR VAN DYK: Yes, Chairperson.
MS VAN DER WALT: And malicious injury to property of the two houses.
MR VAN DYK: Yes, Chairperson.
MS VAN DER WALT: Obstructing the course of justice.
MR VAN DYK: Yes, Chairperson.
MS VAN DER WALT: And also conspiracy to cause an explosion.
MR VAN DYK: Yes, Chairperson.
MS VAN DER WALT: And possession of explosives.
MR VAN DYK: Yes, Chairperson.
MS VAN DER WALT: And any other offences which may flow from your actions.
MR VAN DYK: Yes, Chairperson.
MS VAN DER WALT: And also delictual liability.
MR VAN DYK: Yes, Chairperson.
MS VAN DER WALT: As the Honourable Committee pleases.
NO FURTHER QUESTIONS BY MS VAN DER WALT
MR VICTOR: I have no questions, thank you.
NO QUESTIONS BY MR VICTOR
MR VAN DER MERWE: Thank you, no questions.
NO QUESTIONS BY MR VAN DER MERWE
MR PRINSLOO: No questions.
NO QUESTIONS BY MR PRINSLOO
MS MAKHUBELE: None.
NO QUESTIONS BY MS MAKHUBELE
ADV STEENKAMP: No questions, thank you Mr Chairman.
NO QUESTIONS BY ADV STEENKAMP
CHAIRPERSON: Thank you, you're excused.
MR VAN DYK: Thank you.
WITNESS EXCUSED
MR PRINSLOO: Mr Hattingh is applicant number 4, the next witness.
