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A-Team (Chesterville, Durban)Explanation MR PHOSA: What I really wanted to find out - perhaps I should put it differently, I assume too much. You know Vlakplaas has a reputation, a public reputation - I don’t know if it’s correct, of having been a place where people were tortured or members of that team were torturing politicos and even ... MR BOSCH: Yes, we were a large team going in the evening. CHAIRPERSON: You were a team were you. MR BASSON: Mr Chairperson, we were led by the legal team or our legal team in the incidents where we were involved together and the applications would be then appear the same and we did it on those grounds, it was not a case where it was mine or his, we were basically led that they would be the ... GEN SHOKE: I think as soldiers or as guerillas we worked as a team. We attacked the police station. MR BERGER: Were you part of the team that okayed this telex? MR BOOYENS: Now, then Mr - let's get back to the operation itself, at page 136, the second paragraph, you said, refer there to the fact that Col de Kock suggested a team to you? MR CORNELIUS: And you didn't supply a statement to the Special Investigation Team of the Attorney-General's office? MR J VAN ZYL:: There is only one unit, and that is "Koevoet". I had a team and at one stage Mr Winter had a team as well, although he was regarded as the investigations officer who handled general intelligence at the unit. MR ROSSOUW: Did you know that these two gentlemen were members of the Investigative Team in KwaNdebele in the unrest areas? MR KNOETZE: I agree Mr Chairman. Mr Kloppers a copy of a revised application for amnesty of Mr Van der Schyff was handed to your legal team at a previous opportunity. Did you also get a copy? Do you know of any interest that Mr Hatting had in a soccer team? MR VALLY: The second item is that the legal team of Doctor Wouter Basson have indicated that they will object to him giving evidence here. They can indicate the basis therefore. We are of the view that we should have that argument earlier rather than later. And I'm advised that as Mr Cilliers is ... Two - they state that they needed their legal representative because certain allegations have been made by the applicant's team and they feel that is disparaging allegations done against them. And they did consult with their two Attorneys last night who unfortunately are unavailable to can be ... MR PRIOR: We understand from the documentation provided to us and the evidence that was tendered, that there was a bus belonging to the South West African schoolboy team that had played or had visited the stadium on that occasion which had been parked very close to where the bomb had exploded. ... I then deal with the question of the decorations and I state that Major Williamson, his immediate superior office Brigadier Goosen and the remaining members of their team which took part in the bomb blast at the London offices of the ANC, all received decorations for the role which each of them ... CHAIRPERSON: Now Mr Ras testified here yesterday and I attempted to determine the same thing from him and he says that he decided when you were already at the house and that man came out, he decided "we need another plan", and then I asked him whether or not he discussed this with Mr de Kock ... MR BELLINGHAN: Mr Chairman, I've been involved in various legal forums in the time since I left the South African Police. In respect of the Amnesty Committee, this is my fourth legal team. I've had changes for various reasons which I don't want to go into over here. It's entirely possible that ... All I want to know is that on occasions you will alternate driving, in that Mr Dube or Mr Mbane or yourself would drive a motor vehicle on a specific operation. You were not the only driver in that team, is that correct? In other areas it would seem that we do, we are on the equal footing with the Truth Commission, because we have already passed that stage. Many people do know how to make statements and where and others have already had their statements taken, but the thing that I would really like to raise here, ... |
